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| | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | (...) Its funny, they actually did fix one of the errors right away. The picture for the 2x8 brick pack was actually a 2x10. That was mentioned here and fixed very quickly. I would think they would fix the page although I think they must be pretty (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | (...) That error actually showed the wrong piece whereas the other errors we've mentioned have been in color and nomenclature. Although we would argue that the low slope apex brick is the wrong brick, it can be used (in most cases) in place of the (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Eric Kingsley
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| | | | | (...) I think I would have a differance of oppinion with you on the degree of slope in the peek. First it is the wrong part if what they are shipping is the low slope peek and 2 I would say for me the medium slope peek can NOT be used in most cases (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | (...) I think we're in agreement. We (the people of lugnet) would argue that it's a different piece. But the people at lego may see it differently. Obviously, this piece wouldn't work with the other pieces designed for use with the medium slope (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Shiri Dori
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| | | | | (...) fixed (...) Not really, for starters it can ruin the "uniform" look of a roof and secondly, as Eric mentioned, with the absense of corner-peaks in low slopes, one cannot make a 90 degree turn in the roof. (...) Like Eric (again) - even as a (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | (...) in (...) Well, what I meant was that although we would call it the wrong piece and certainly complain, a child may not since they're less likely to make a complicated roof. It's still a roof apex brick, even if it's the wrong one. And maybe (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Mike Walsh
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| | | | | | | "Brian Lanning" <blanning@mciworld.com> wrote in message news:FwIs0o.J8s@lugnet.com... (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) train (...) asked (...) that (...) than (...) history (...) how we (...) this (...) playing (...) that (...) [ ... snipped ... ] (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | (...) How about a McDonalds drive-thru window. Or a metro station train schedule! :-) brian (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Tom McDonald
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| | | | | | | (...) To really play the devil's advocate, who says its has to be a "roof" apex brick? Is it really a brick per se if it has no studs? And the term "medium" can applied because of a few reasons, not the least of which, is the comparative slope angle (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | In lugnet.lego.direct, Tom McDonald writes: <snip> (...) A dangerous attitude if they don't get the picture right. :-) (...) I bet, in the end, the names will be dropped. We have a naming convention that works well... in english. I'd hate to have to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | train windows —Kevin Loch
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| | | | | | | (...) Even a child would notice that the piece on the order form is not what he got. (...) They know exactly what a train window is. I bet there is a very good reason(s) why they offered transparent thin walls instead. A couple possibilities come to (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Not all of them. I know, at 8, I would have noticed as you probably would have also. And my six year old daughter would probably notice also. But my eight year old daughter would probably be oblivious. (...) I think it's much less sinister (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Except for one problem - has there EVER been a set with plain clear 1x4x3 thinwalls? No printing at all? What about a set with red-framed, GREEN-paned doors? I don't know of one. Quite a goofup if the accidently cast red frames instead of (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) They could have short-circuited the production process to skip the painting of the thin-walls. (...) Quite a (...) instead (...) I'm not sure what happened there. Maybe they goofed before this and bulk ordering was a way to unload the doors. (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | (...) I'd guess molding and printing are two, very separate, parts of the production process. They (probably) don't run a single line to mold and print, all in one shot. Instead, they do all the molding in a run, warehouse the pieces for a bit, and (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Richard Franks
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Maybe these are extra bits from sets they are making now for next year? Richard (24 years ago, 25-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) What about if we restrict the sample to "8 year old kids who would order from Lego Direct"? I bet MOST of those would notice. (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Steve Bliss
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Yeah, all 10 of them. Steve (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Matthew Miller
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) Okay then. :) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | | | | Brian Lanning wrote in message ... (...) way, (...) we (...) we (...) that (...) More specifically, what name do we call these things that will get some mundanes interested in buying them? I mean, what mundane is going to buy something called a (...) (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) Who cares about the mundanes? Target them and LD will be a flop. We're the heavy users. Give us what we want so we can wow the mundanes, doing free marketing for TLG in the process, and do it in a way that is: - low fixed cost - low variable (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Paul Baulch
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| | | | | | | | | | | Larry Pieniazek wrote in message ... (...) limited (...) want (...) and do (...) have (...) money). (...) That's fair enough, but I can't help wondering whether they're trying to market to the mundanes anyway. And how exactly does _our_ Lego (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | | (...) TLC does or would if they'd do a little anaylsis. I don't think anyone else does. I've heard a lot of numbers batted around. I'd be surprised if we were less than .5% of the total and very surprised if we were more than 10%... But that is an (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) that (...) Whoops! c/Baluch/Baulch/ ... sorry about that. (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | | I said: (...) and I meant to footnote it but forgot. I first heard this term in the Wall Street Journal in a McDonalds article. The WSJ is not searchable so I can't prove it. However I did find it on an anti-McDonalds site: (URL) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | | I find it hard to believe that they're willing to give up the econmies of scale here. How many of us are there? 1000? Compared to the number of children who consume sets one at a time... well, let's do the math: 300 or so million people in the US. (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Jonathan Wilson
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| | | | | | | | (...) You hit the nail on the head, they are almost certainly not making the train glass for the window. (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: train windows —Tom Stangl
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| | | | | | | | But they obviously easily COULD - 5542 had train glass for the windows AND doors. (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | (...) OK, go ahead. Everyone knows I'm arrogant anyway. Personally I think it would be shrewd of them to target the market exclusively to AFOLs with mundanes as a secondary interest. We're the heavy users (1) who are going to buy bunches (is there (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | (...) here (...) And (...) Good point. Only the serious would want those quantities. (...) It wasn't really meant to be a sound line of reasoning. I'm just being annoying. However silly it is, while viewing the big picture, to call it a train (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —John Gerlach
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) As opposed to the naming conventions that LEGO has used internally for years? How about, instead of suggesting that LEGO change the way they refer to parts, why not ask them to share *their* naming conventions with the AFOL community? JohnG, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Do they have an internal naming convention? Is it in english or danish? Why are the thin walls train windows according to them? They were used in a lot of places. I doubt they have anything that formal. If they do, I'd certainly like to hear (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Jason Catena
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| | | | | | | | | | | (...) Hey, that'd be great... if they provide pictures to go along with the part names, like Partsref. In the meantime, Partsref seems to me to be the most useful thing out there to make sure we're all talking about the same part. Lego can call (...) (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) That would be fine too... IF it was one rather than many, and IF it was shared with us. ++Lar (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Christopher Masi
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| | | | | | | | | | If there is a naming convention I doubt it is official. When I was there nothing was refered to by name; everything was done by number. No one ever said "Chris, get on that fork lift and go get us 6 boxes of yellow 2x4 bricks." It was always "Get (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) nothing (...) "Chris, (...) always (...) Fine. Tell us what the values of xxxx-xx are for all parts, LD, please. We'll use those. We just need to reduce this tower of Babel. ++Lar (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Naming conventions —Brian Lanning
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| | | | | | | | | | Don't get TLG mad or they'll make us all call the pieces different things.:-D brian (...) (24 years ago, 26-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Gary Istok
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Get enough town window parts into Lego Direct production, and you will be seeing some Town folks will wow the "mundanes" with "show stopping" skyscrapers and downtowns as well! (Or do like I do and build a European city with a castle, city (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Bram Lambrecht
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| | | | | | | | | | (...) What about red frames with green glass? ;) --Bram Bram Lambrecht.........Br...L@JUNO.com (URL) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Alan Gerber
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| | | | | | | | | OT: Larry P - Was Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Mark Koeberl
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| | | | | | | | (...) snip... ^^^^^^^^ (...) snip.... ^^^^^^^^ Anyone else suddenly picture Larry as looking like Bestor from Babylon 5? :) No offense intended. Just haven't seen that word applied so freely anywhere else. Mark (24 years ago, 23-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: OT: Larry P - Was Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Jason Catena
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| | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Kevin Wilson
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| | | | | | | (...) I dunno, as kids my sister and cousin and I used to use all the (red) weird shaped roof pieces to make complicated roofs with right angles, L's and dormers. Nowadays though, kids might not since the required weird shapes are less common. Kevin (24 years ago, 21-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Geoffrey Hyde
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| | | | | | | | In that case, those weird shaped roof pieces are exactly what TLG need to consider including in the next LEGO Direct update. Also, I would consider adding a test of sorts if I were TLG, and have inward and outward sloping low corner bricks made up (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) That would be nice but I think new tooling is out of the question. Very expensive, and this has to be done on a shoestring so it's only incurring minimal fixed costs or it will not make money. I'm hoping that they will use tooling not (...) (24 years ago, 22-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Mike Timm
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| | | | | | (...) I don't know that much about programming or even creating websites but, does .asp stuff cache or bookmark? If you are a company that wants to keep tight control over your public image perhaps you only want people seeing the most recent version (...) (24 years ago, 24-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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| | | | | | Re: Does anybody actually know Mr Justus? —Richard Franks
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| | | | (...) Although the Bulk Parts link was on the *front* LEGO page for a short time. Richard (24 years ago, 25-Jun-00, to lugnet.lego.direct)
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