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  Star Destroyer
 
Wassssup Everyone, Got an idea after looking at the star destroyer in the shopathome catalog. For those who are getting it (can't include myself yet) would it be any fun to have a contest to see who can build it the fastest? There wouldn't be any (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
You'd only count first build time, right? I know that the second or third time I build a model it goes much faster. Tom "Sean Devolites" <hotshot3396@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:H4yGHq.939@lugnet.com... (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
That sounds like a great idea, I plann on building and playing with mine all day on christmas! My mom and dad are getting it for me! it's the only thing i asked for too! i am excited if you can't tell! (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I'm afraid for 'building-fatigue'. I know I had the same when building the Statue of Liberty. After several hours, I just had to step back and play some computergames - like Lego Island II :-) /\/\ark "my Destroyer will arrive in two weeks" de (...) (22 years ago, 2-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I already have to time my build - at Legoworld 2002 I was chatting to Tim Courtney and the LEGO S@H girls and said I reckon I could do it in 9 hours, as the RBR took me just over 4, and they reckoned it'll take a lot longer. Guess I should (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) My build time will change dramatically depending on whether I pre-sort the pieces or not. Would presorting the pieces count towards the build time? I suppose to be absolutely fair, build time starts with a sealed box in front of you, and ends (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) It's funny how different people look at the process of building a large set like this. For me, it's not how fast can I do it, but rather the exact opposite. How long can I stretch this out? How much patience can I practice? I often start and (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Thanks for the response. Yeah, I'd only count the first build time. When you get to the second or third time some pieces that are hard to put together and are mainly inseparable would be done and that would save some time. Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Thanks for the response. I don't mean suicidal building. If you start at night, then your obviously not going to pull an all nighter just to build it. If you count the time that you actually spend building it (looking at the instructions, (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) No, I can tell your excited : ) Cool. If I get it I'll probably do the same. Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) It took you that long? : ) (...) Well, then your already taking part! Just add up the time your actually building and see how long it takes you. I'm not suicidal enough to spend a long amount of time in the same position without taking some (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Yep, you have to count from the box being ripped open to the last detail added. You can stop the clock for breaks though, just not for sorting bricks. Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Stretching it out still works of course. Just count the time you spend building and add it up. Then you can take time with breaks, and still have a spent amount of building. Just don't cheat though : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Yeah you're going to have to prove that one to us, Dan. :-) Wonder if we could get them to chip in an extra ISD, then we can time you in a controlled environment. Buahaha. I DID do them a favor by taking all those ship pictures so they could (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Indeed. I just want to cruise through it, pick up whatever tricks the set designers have in store for me, and evaluate it's potential as a parts source... it won't stay together long so why savor the build! :-) Nothing wrong with different (...) (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
In lugnet.general, Daniel Crichton writes: La Vista, Sean (...) ?? Who are the LEGO S@H girls? And why were you chatting them up? (22 years ago, 4-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) That was my point silly.... don't count the time, just build. :) Allan B. (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) No, what I meant was only count the time that your building, cuz you see, you can't time yourself building if you don't time yourself building. (dang that makes no sense at all, does it?) OK, what I mean is time the time you spend building the (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) To see if I'd make a huge underestimation I sat down last night and built the 8880 supercar I won on eBay last week - 1 hour, then a break to watch TV and eat pizza for 1 hour, then 4 hours of building and watching TV at the same time (must be (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) At Legoworld in Zwolle S@H had a stand with a couple of the girls who work for customer services there. And who said I was chatting them up? It was just friendly banter. Dan (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) But he doesn't WANT to count the time at all. For him it's the fun of the build, I expect, and timing it would detract from that experience. (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Well then why didn't he just say so in a clear, readable fashion like I generally need? : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Remember, the clock starts ticking when you open the box. :-) Sort those greeblies if you will, but by all rights it should be timed. I suppose extra storage bins should be allowed... (...) I think the ISD is conditional upon you meeting the (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) What about the time spent verifying the inventory? :-) -- TWS Garrison (URL) capital letters in address for direct reply. (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Um, because he wanted to increase your reading enjoyment by making you think about what he was saying instead of giving it to you all predigested and MTVlike? If he had done that it would have detracted from the experience. :-) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) But I like it that way! (...) oh. You never want to detract from the experience. : ) Hasta la Vista, Sean P.S This has gone pretty off the topic that we started on, hasn't it? : ) P.S.S Why doesn't Allan get involved in this?! (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Kids these days. Why, when I was a boy, you talked to computers with punched cards. And liked it. (...) Who's "we", Kimosabe? XFUT lugnet.off-topic.fun (...) (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) But of course, in my day, you use a keyboard and mouse! And like it! (...) huh? whos kimosabe? Is that a food or something? Whats XFUT? Your gonna make me ask to many questions! P.S Notice how I cut this so it looked predigested! (22 years ago, 5-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) When I was a boy, we lived in shoe-box in middle of road, ... Gordon (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Luxary! (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) You were lucky to get a box! (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I weep for today's youth. ;) (...) It's usually Allan's fault. It's those darned 'alternative opinions' of his. :) (...) Because: a) He knows better than to get involved in a discussion about what he 'meant' to say. b) He was out of town today (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.general, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) They were lucky to have a road. We lived in a paper bag in the middle of a pond. Bruce (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) And you tell the young people of today, and they don't believe you! Gordon (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
Keyboard?!?! Point and Click baby. If you have to type something... move on. ;) Seriously, I remember the when I was in jr high and playing zork went from typing commands to clicking the mouse. Far less enjoyable experience, if you ask me. [the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Ya, but you have the inside track! :-) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Well between that and the stories of walking 20 miles to school in a blizzard without shoes with backpacks that way a ton, then beleiving isn't always the easiest thing to do. : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean P.S Not to mention the fact that backpacks (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Ahem, in my day we didn't have backpacks-- we had to carry stacks of heavy books in our bare arms! Maggie C. (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Amazing how times have changed! Now in my age we have to wear backpacks that way a ton, and (thanks for reminding me) carry books that way a ton, AND we have to make it to class in 3 minutes! Beat that : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Yeah, yeah... and you don't have lockers either because they're afraid you'll harbor drugs or weapons, right? (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) There you go with your 2nd Amendment rant again! Dave! (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) By the way--when I saw the title of this thread I thought it said "prestidigitated pap," and I was afraid we'd get into a discussion of koalas that juggle food for their young... Dave! FUT: off-topic.odd-zoolog...l-factoids (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) As our hero once said, "I want to learn the ways of Python and become a comedian like my father." (URL) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Okay, so we were stupider back then. And they criticize today's public schools... ;-) Bruce (who still lists to starboard because of those stupid books) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, the following is attributed to Dave! (...) Evidently if it *were* "prestidigitated pap" it would raise the level of this thread substantially on the Australian quality scale-- and I believe mention of koalas qualifies it for (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) While it may make it Oz related, I think you'll find the usage actually will incur penalty points, among that group at any rate. You should have seen the uproar when Katie Couric "adopted" a baby wallaby when she was in Oz for the Olympics... (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Fine. I will time all opening/sorting/building, and stop the clocks for breaks (I don't think I can hold out for 9 hours straight!). (...) But there would have to be a consolation prize for not meeting the limit, 9 hours of my time at work is (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) So, you'll be building it at work? :) Curious, Allan B. (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Wow. Yeah. I guess you're right Lar. But hey, what do I know-- I post lots of stuff to .market. Maggie (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) The key element to the old walking-to-school-in-snow story is that it also involved going uphill *both* ways. ...Something that I *did* have to do when I was younger... As for backpacks, I was one of the dorky kids who realized very early on (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Who said this was work? :-) -Tim (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer (savouring it !)
 
(...) I can relate to this. I have a special tic... eh, trick to savour and expand the building experience in such a way that it takes me at least twice as long to finish. I carefully inspect every piece to be placed, find out in what direction the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)  
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) No, we have lockers. The fact of them always opening and closing is another matter though... Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) (with fake Irish accent) It all comes down to the little people, doesn't it? : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Hey, I *technically* used to have to do that back in Elementary School! (ah those were the days, why I remembe... Wait a sec, I'm starting to sound like you guys! : )) You see, we lived at the top of the hill, so you walked downhill halfway, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Yep, keyboard : ) (...) ahhh. But I see you have just used a keyboard, eh? : ) (...) What in the I-can't-use-the-word is Zork? Old-timers game I'm sure : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean P.S No harm meant by Old-timers, but its the truth! (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) (URL) one weird looking URL, but go check it out...) Zork, while not the first text adventure game (Interactive Fiction as they call it these days), was one of the first to really implement an extensive parser. Here's another link: (URL) if (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) The original Zork also circulates. It's substantially identical to the commercial versions, but fine details were edited, just as they were edited between the early microcomputer editions and the definitive 1983 releases. (bugs and all: 'who (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) A-heehee! ...Hey wait, are you saying I'm old?? ;o (...) Yeah, that was basically what I had, except there was a yellow school bus mixed in there somewhere too. As for the ice, that added to the fun. My parent's driveway is about 900 feet long (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer (savouring it !)
 
I think I get what your talking about. I've tried making all the logos face the same way before too, except it gets hard on corners and is near impossible for big sets. I did build that way for my Imperial Shuttle though. Hasta La Vista, Sean (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) (rubs chin) possibly... : ) (...) Lucky. But at least you had the bus! I had to walk the whole way! oh, and slipping on black ice may be fun in a sled, but when your backpack is really heavy and you slip, and fall on your face, and then try to (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
Thanks for the info guys. But not being one who usually gets into games and the like, Is zork a kind of game that some people put on their TI-83 calculators, or am I way off on that one? Hasta La Vista, Sean P.S About that xyzzy command, does fool (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I don't! : ) Imagine all the news we can get into a half hour compared to 20 years ago! Why I bet in 20 years '60 minutes' will be down to 2! (...) You bet it is : ) (...) Yeah, but you know the answer already. Of course, d sounds about right (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) In the Before Time of Long Long Ago, computers rarely used graphics (we're talking 1970's). Most things were text. Computers simply couldn't handle complex graphics in a timely sense, and often, because storage was so expensive back then, (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) xyzzy doesn't work, fool! Before there was Zork, there was Colossal Cave. 'xyzzy' only works in Colossal Cave. Both programs were named 'adventure' at one time, though Zork also went by the name 'dungeon'. There were family resemblances: you (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
I just remembered that in junior high "frotz grue" was funny. (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) Did that 'xyzzy' have anything to do with the 'xyzzy' BITNET chat program (It was kinda like 'talk' on UNIX but not really,) I remember using on the VAX at my university oh way back when??? -Kyle (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) Assuming the TI-83 has a reasonable way to input text, I would say theoretically yes. It seems to use the same Z-80 processor that the TRS-80 used, and appears to have enough RAM. Some models come with Flash ROM, which if useable for user (...) (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Yup, in high school, we were given a box of punched cards and if the program couldn't be written with the finite cards huddled in that box, then there was something wrong with you. I know that to be true, because the teacher told us so. Bruce (...) (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) any of the games I worked on made it into the hall of fame. :-) There was the Scott Adams abbreviated version around that time. Bruce (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) So did any make it? Frank (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Zork
 
(...) Wasteland and Heroes of Might and Magic. I didn't work on the original Bard's Tale except for conversions, so I don't count that one. Bruce (22 years ago, 8-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer (savouring it !)
 
(...) Well, to make all logo's face only one single way is impossible, because often you have to place rectangular parts with their largest length sideways or vertically upwards. As I explained, you need no less that 3 prefered directions. And all (...) (22 years ago, 9-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) You won't like it in a few years when your wrists start to go bad. Mice are evil. (...) Ugh, you have never heard of the Lone Ranger? Jeez, these kids today... Kemo sabe was what Tonto (which is Spanish for "stupid," by the way) would call The (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Do you have a wrist guard on your desk? (...) touche...Had this discussion been held later in the year, I would know more spanish, I'm taking it this year! Oh, I forgot to say, I now know kimosabe, means possibly, friend? (...) Thanks. Hasta (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) LOL gotta love, or hate, that pop culture. My University of Chicago Spanish-Engilsh dictionary has 9 entries for words that start with "k," and none of them are "kimosabe." The word vaguely looks like it could be a Spanish word, but something (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) My predigested self : ) Kimosabe I think is Indian for friend, and I said that I'm taking Spanish so I would've known what tonto means. It's ok you didn't understand though. Only the young know how to read "predigested pap" : ))))) Hasta la (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I guess I just read from the Spanish sentence to the kimosabe one, and lumped the two together in my mind. Didn't see a tonto reference in your post, but then again, didn't read the post before yours... Everything indicated to me you were (...) (22 years ago, 16-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Thats ok. I don't see everything all the time either. (...) Should've added the drum-and-symbol sound : ) Hasta La Vista, Sean (22 years ago, 17-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) (URL) Dave! (22 years ago, 17-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Well, I was half right and half wrong. It means scout in some Indian languages, but it also means friend in the Tewa Indian language (or it roughly comes out to it). But of course, that makes Kemosabe -technically- friend in Indian. Hasta La (...) (22 years ago, 17-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
In lugnet.off-topic.fun, this link was provided by Dave! (...) been able to figure out the new Gradebook program (she includes herself here) as "technotontas". Maggie C. (22 years ago, 17-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: Star Destroyer (savouring it !)
 
(...) Yay, more OCD (obsessive/compulsive) LEGO fans like me! My girlfriend finds it slightly amusing/slightly disturbing that I tend to build all my SW LEGO sets with the "LEGO" text facing in certain ways not dissimilar to yours. Basically, I tend (...) (22 years ago, 20-Nov-02, to lugnet.general)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) No, those just make it worse. (...) I think it's a made up word created for the Lone Ranger show. I believe in the story line it is the word for "friend" in Tonto's native language (which is presumably some generic native American language, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) Referring to "Indian" as a single language makes about as much sense as referring to "European" as a single language. Less, even. --Bill. (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)
 
  Re: predigested pap (was Re: Star Destroyer
 
(...) I don't know how I wandered onto this string, but I think everyone missed the point: there was a punchline to a joke in there that started this all that everyone missed and thus the point was lost. The Lone Ranger and his faithful companion, (...) (22 years ago, 5-Dec-02, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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