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Re: What Kids really want. Not Juniorization.
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Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:39:41 GMT
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Also, I don't particularly care for the bagged 'minisets within sets'
juniorization, but then you can always just dump everthing out into the
box.

I have to disagree with you on this point. I have a four(almost five) year
old boy and the mini set bags make it easier for him to build the sets. He
gets frustrated when he can't find the parts. This also makes it easier for
us to build the set together since we can both take a "part" and build in
parallel.

Actually the mini bag sets speed up the building process with out
compromising the set design.

Rose

Ok, obviously I confused you (and Doug, and Mike). No, I don't hate the bags
at all; I've heard comments to the effect of some people really don't like
them (I can't remember who said this, but I've seen many posts that say
something to the effect of dumping everything into a big pile and sorting
yourself is half the fun), at which point you can always empty them into a
big box if you like to sort them. For some of the smaller sets (Grip and go
challenge) I don't particularly want to be 'spoon fed' if you will (so I
don't care FOR them generally, no) but then I can always just dump out the
parts into the box; If you're still confused (I obviously am not being
clear) basically I'm trying to say this is the one area of juniorizing
that's not doing anyone any harm: if you don't think it's necessary to
pre-sort a small set, dump it out. And if you find it helpful, great. It's
all good. This is about the ONLY area of juniorization that doesn't hurt...

The fact is, for the Destroyer droid, it did help to have them in little
bagged sections. But even if they weren't bagged, I wouldn't have minded
because the pieces are all similarly coloured -- what I personally can't
stand is when they add random colours to something (like the Millenium
falcon -- no, wait, that's a bad example because there it does help people
build... the same brick sizes are generally all the same colour)... ok, back
to the UCS X-Wing. The random colours inserted in there don't serve any
purpose except (and here's where the bags come in) make it more difficult to
find pieces. If they HAD mini-bagged the UCS set (one that they SHOULD have
bagged, if they were going to include so many hidden colours) it would've
greatly shortened building time. What I meant was, I would've preferred that
they had removed the random colours from the UCS to lessen the time needed
for searching. And while I generally just dump everything out of the
minibags for smaller sets, for the UCS that would've helped too.

i.e. bags usually unecessary but no harm done, should be bagged for large
multicoloured sets, but would be even better if colours weren't so
randomized. The way they are bagged in the sculptures sets (essentially 1
bag per piece type) is how I would prefer it, but no, while I don't care
about them (miniset- bags) one way or another for smaller sets, I think they
would definitely help with larger sets and they don't hurt (because you can
always just dump them out). So miniset bags, while I usually find them
unnecessary, are the 1 area of juniorizing that doesn't hurt anybody.

Hopefully that will make what I meant less ambiguous (albiet at the cost of
extreme wordiness).

And what I hate even more than the random colour inserting (I mean, why
DON'T we have an essentially all-grey set yet?!?) is a piece that represents
a completely replicatable conglomeration of other pieces that would be
identically functional (the 2x2 tile with vertical technic peg, 2x2 plate
and 2x4 plate combo found in the LOM mech sets are NOT juniorization: they
serve to give you more studs of 'stickiness' so that you can build something
that would require a stronger joint -- the crappy 1 piece truck body found
in the 'Bridge to nowhere' Highway construction set is a horrible example of
juniorization, but I only mentioned the 'easier to sort if pieces are all
the same colours instead of multicolours' because I assumed the hatred for
the 'one piece truck body' type of juniorization was a given.

Mark W.

p.s. Mike P: I don't care as much how it's packaged either. That's why
that's the 'good' kind of juniorizing -- and why I mentioned if you don't
like it you can always dump it all out. Sorry for the lack of clarity, everyone.



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(...) I really can't understand why you (not only you but other people who also said that) are so upset with current (I mean old) way of packaging. If you just open the bags to make piles of each individual bag, instead of a big common pile, I (...) (24 years ago, 29-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

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  Re: What Kids really want. Not Juniorization.
 
A. Mark Wilburn wrote in message ... (...) box. I have to disagree with you on this point. I have a four(almost five) year old boy and the mini set bags make it easier for him to build the sets. He gets frustrated when he can't find the parts. This (...) (24 years ago, 5-Mar-01, to lugnet.lego.direct, lugnet.general)

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