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  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
Your help is always appreciated Don! I just tried out LDLite v2.4, and it looks OK too, as do the BMP files Larry sent me. I think it is a problem with aliasing. Which reminds me, I was going to add a dithering-expander option, so that trans-colors (...) (22 years ago, 1-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: possible rendering problem with LDLite and transparent parts
 
(...) Ok, but I just tested flat.dat with ldlite 2.3 and your command line: ldlite.exe -W2 -MS -S3.0 -C15 -A0.707104,0,0.70710...-0.650895, 0.390731,0.650895 -D1 -U02500,02500 -I-4 -K flat.dat It worked just fine on Win2K with only 192MB. However, I (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Used to, not any more. I built in my own "renderer" -Orion (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Art of Illusion
 
Hey everyone - After some private email exchange with Wayne Gramlich and Kevin Clague, Wayne emailed me this (quoting with permission): (...) Wayne posted about AOI back in the fall, and I don't think it got many responses, if any. I know a few (...) (22 years ago, 31-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) If you want an example of the quality you can get with this technique, take a peek at the Family Car instructions on this page. (URL) almost positive it was done with the edge thickening and scaling method described by Larry. Don (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) I'm not sure if there are any others, but the LTrax meta-commands are definitely not in all caps. And, according to Tore (the LTrax author), the LTrax program doesn't treat them as case-sensitive. --Travis (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) All of LDView's rendering code is actually already encapsulated into a static library. It's not a DLL because I decided that having the DLL complicated the LDView distrubution overly much (especially for screen saver support). It wouldn't be (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Gyug has said that LDLite and LDGLite are trying to share code, FWIW... (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Orion Pobursky uses LDGLite as a renderer to generate previews in his Bezier Curve Generator plugin for LDDesignPad. -Tim (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) I missed this bit before. I thought Jake was asking about why I didn't use MLCad for rendering. (...) I agree with this approach, I don't think you should write your own renderer, we don't need YARenderer at this point. Just link them in as (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
<snip> (...) I understood. It is a bug. (...) Yes, well there are numerous windows apps that can render LDraw files quickly on the screen, but just because LPub doesn't support it doesn't mean LPub has a bug. ;-) (...) Running a vote would be cool, (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Looking into other renderers was just a thought of mine. Your requests for pause controls is indicitive of the cost of high quality rendering. For those who do not want to pay that price they have to lay out BIs by hand. I don't have a desire (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Maybe the simple way covers all the needs. (...) Yeah, I just started typing... :) (...) Perhaps I should give a bit more detail. What I mean is even when operations are canceled, or you actually click the "Cancel" button in this dialog, the (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) It's good enough for what I use it for, and it doesn't require POV, and it's way way way way faster. I'd never tie up my PC for two days rendering, that's just unacceptable. (...) Maybe. Read the help on the command line options to se what (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Seems simple enough. (...) Simple also, as long as it is at *every* sub-model. Careful what you ask for. (...) This is about 8 enhancement requests you know. Not just preferences per sub-model, but also global BOM inclusion/exclusion per (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) But is this only comparing MLCad to LDLite? While I would agree that the batch processing abilities seem cool, the quality just doesn't seem to compare if you also factor in MegaPOV to the mix. That being said... am I missing something? There (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Here are a few more ideas: - Basic Pause function (this may be handled just fine by POVRAY, but I'm not that familiar with it. Reason: When you are working off of one machine that I share, either I need to quickly check email, or let my wife (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Oh, I should also note that it's embeddable in batch files, since it has a command line interface. When you have hundreds or thousands of images to render across 30-40 submodels, that's very very important. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) Kevin did a pretty exhaustive search for meta command and all of the one's he listed were in all caps. The command word needs to be in all caps, the command parameters don't need to be. (if I'm reading the spec correctly) -Orion (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) If we could figure out a *fast* interface for getting images between a renderer and LPub (fast enough to be interactive like I know Willy wants) then yes. The ideal solution would to be to have one of these renderers as a DLL library that I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) The reference to LDLite is really a generic reference to renderers other than POV-Ray. I've not done a lot of homework on LDLite, but if it can be an alternative renderer to POV-Ray it has a few advantages including rendering speed (as it is (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Better rendering control. While I use MLCad for model capture and review, I use LDLite as a rendering tool for final instruction images, as it is much more flexible and gives me fine grained control over more things. YMMV. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Is this where LDLite might come into play? Jake --- Jake McKee Webmaster- B.I. Portal (URL) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) This may be a dumb question, but what exactly is the benefit of LDLite? From what I have seen (and this is probably wrong) LDLite simply allows you to look at a model in 3D space, much like the 3D view in MLCad. What am I missing? Jake --- (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) got it! to me "renderer" means raytracing, radiosity ... progs like povray, 3ds, bryce ... sorry for messing up. bye w. (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Willy, I understood you perfectly. Maybe you didn't understand me. LPub is not a renderer. I know all too well that hard for me means easy for you, but in saying that you are completely ignoring that it is *hard for me* :^( (...) Kevin (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) hi kevin, you probably "missundaztood" me. I was thinking of the following feature: loading a .ldr or .mpd it shows up in a preview-frame in the camera tab, like the hose, spring or minifig in MLCad. rotating the model in the preview-frame (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Hi Willy, (...) Thanks for this one. (...) Please note that LPub is not a renderer. What you are asking for in this one is a renderer, which is no small change. It could take a *long* time for this one to get done (if it does). Might I (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) hi kevin, we've already discussed the following in the past via e-mail, but these features are missing in the list ;-) * mask-rendering or support for transparent background. * preview-window to check the camera-settings * color scaling of (...) (22 years ago, 30-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) OK, I wasn't aware it was in there. However, according to the huge meta-command thread, people have created meta-commands with mixed case and some that aren't case-sensitive. Nobody mentioned there that this was illegal according to the LDraw (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss writes: <snip> (...) This is already in the LDRAW file spec. All meta statements are required to be in all caps. -Orion (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) I have to disagree with this (nice of you to say it, though :). Ultimately, the community has the final say. Here's my feedback & suggested revisions for version 12. You could've just dropped the old revision numbers. That would have made the (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) Paul, Because L3P doesn't know anything about buffer exchange or rotation steps, LPub creates a DAT for each step and handles all the rotation and stuff. Is there mechanism in LDLite that will let LPub interact with LDLite through interprocess (...) (22 years ago, 29-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
(...) :-) (...) day about adding support for Buffer Exchange and Rotation Steps, etc. Maybe if LPub supported it, LDLite wouldn't have to make those changes. -Tim (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LPub and Lsynth page for tracking enhancement requests and bug fixes
 
Hi All, I've been doing some building lately to recharge my tactile batteries, but LPub and Lsynth have been starting to stur up back-of-the-brain activity. I've gotten so many suggestions (especially from Tim Courtney who emails me almost every day (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  New E-mail address
 
Dear fellow LEGO fans, I am sending this message to the groups I regularly read and post to, because since today my E-mail address that I used to post with no longer exists! It was jmolen@globalxs.nl... :-( My new adres will be jmolen@zonnet.nl and (...) (22 years ago, 28-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dat.models, lugnet.cad.dat.models.sets, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.mlcad, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.harrypotter, lugnet.inst, lugnet.loc.nl, lugnet.space, lugnet.starwars, lugnet.technic)
 
  Re: Camera Positioning
 
(...) This document describes a method of scaling to fit a bounding sphere into a viewport, starting somewhere around page 30. (URL) would think you'd have to pick a camera angle first, or fix one of the other variables like the distance to the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: Camera Positioning
 
(...) Hi Orion, The law of similar triangles comes to mind...... not that I consider myself much of a mathemetician. Pick an aribitrary camera distance greater than zero and calculate the size of the bounding box projected into a 2D plane (the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)
 
  Re: New BFC Spec
 
(...) Steve (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Camera Positioning
 
Maybe someone can point me in the right direction... I have an object with a known bounding box, how do I calculate the position of the camera so that the whole object is shown on a screen of known dimentions? In other words, how to I determine the (...) (22 years ago, 25-Mar-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.ray)


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