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Is this about a license for parts-builders or the format of the DAT files ? Personally I think the current DAT file structure is the best there is . Of course one would want higher quality outputs from Povray like the heads i've seen in other (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Rather than harm, I think we owe you thanks for having dug in a bit to get another perspective! Thanks! (...) I disagree here, as we have seen in some recent instances of differing versions of parts, we can argue that LDraw parts are artistic (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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"Scott A" <eh105jb@mx1.pair.com> wrote in message news:G55oJJ.M9@lugnet.com... (...) cost (...) is (...) The "user" base may be small, but the "viewer" base is much larger. How many times have you seen an LDraw'n model and thought, "I have got to (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right. Now you're asking the right question. I don't know the answer. (...) True. For instance me. But if a workable royalty scheme and a searchable catalog were introduced, I think I'd be designing like mad and putting one after another up (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I hear you clearly now Larry. However, on reflection, I still think the cost of providing a ldraw import ability into CREATOR II (Son of Creator – or is that blasphemy?) will be more than the benefits it would supply to the _public_. You have to (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I will be the debian maintainer of leocad, so this issue is of interest to me. I asked a few questions about the parts library on the debian-legal mailing list. Here are the questions, answers, and my opinions about them. Please note that I mean no (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm sorry, I have to agree with you that it is indeed universally applicable, and yet... not actually relevant to the real question. The real question is this: What is the expected benefit of developing and releasing a CAD program - that is in (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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It is a moot point, but I view economics as: “A means by which alternatives may be structured so that a decision may be reached.” Therefore the sunk cost rule is universally applicable. If the conclusion is that the existing CAD set-up is not (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Right, but that's an implied understanding, not an explicit agreement. Basically, there should be a "part submission" page on ldraw.org. One of the features of that page should be a link to a full contributor's agreement. Another necessary (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Just to raise a point, I have both, as both have their place. (...) Great list of attributes. However, they didn't hire Leonardo, for whatever reason, so we may or may not be able to count on them actually happening. (...) I've some (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I agree. But it is a sunk cost. Do you still buy vinyl because you have a record player - or did you move to CD as it was better? (dear reader : please go to .debate to discuss vinyl v CD ) Disregarding sunk costs is a basic law of economics. (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) That's information you have and we didn't... so I defer, gladly. However I do want to repeat this: (...) Well, I know what *I* prefer anyway. Open source is better than closed source, LDraw format, warts and all, is at least publicly (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) When TLG offered me a job, my first task would be to work in that project so I know what this is all about. I signed an NDA when I was in Billund and I can't talk about it but I think I can say that unless they changed their plans, they won't (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I thought we were close to having the right mods in a previous draft. (...) In view of the implications contained in *this*: (URL) w.r.t. designing your own custom sets for TLC to manufacture for you... I think it is *extremely* important to (...) (24 years ago, 6-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Thanks for the info. I am accually ldrawing the 8480 space shuttle and that has some rubber belts in it. (24 years ago, 5-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I use the ldglite as my default viewer, and as we all know it's just a thin port of the ldlite 1.6 source. I know I'm looking forward to some of these new goodies and I think there might be one or two other linux/BSD/*nix users out there who (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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You can use Ldraw-mode to model any curved parts. If you use it to model the technic flexible hose (not the ribbed kind), then the "inner" cylinder used for the subpart is the correct diameter for the belts. I just created a belt to go between two (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I still couldn't understand what do you call "contributor's license". The way I understand it is that when someone submits a part to the voting process, they are allowing it to be redistributed under the "redistribution license". I don't see (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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The only problem is, this license is no use without an Authors/Contributors license to go with it. And I think this is one is *too* brief. Steve (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I use it in conjunction with LDAO, and stand-alone sometimes. What I'd most like to see is an option to automatically scale and center the model. And, like Steve (I think) said, to crop saved images to the model boundaries to save space. Thanks, (...) (24 years ago, 4-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) For the CATEGORY, I recommentd either "Boat" or "Minifig Accessory". Depending on which CATEGORY you use, that will determine the first word of the DESCRIPTION. For KEYWORDS, I recommend the following: cannon, cannons, cannonade, "black (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Hello everyone, I am just about finished with two new parts. The "Pirate" cannon (then non shooting one) and it's base piece. I would like some suggestions on a good part description, keywords and a category. They are available for viewing at my "in (...) (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Has anyone else noticed that the axle hole on this .dat file is 2 ldu higher than it should be? It would be great if someone else with this part could confirm this. -John Van (24 years ago, 3-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Steve Bliss skrev i meddelandet <5e0g2tsbp71mhhjc9d6...ax.com>... (...) I have used the source (Pascal port of early version) in my LDList program, and LDLite is the default viewer for .dat-files on my computer. (...) Just scaling up/down is not (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Last time we talked about a license for the parts library we couldn't reach an agreement, so here I am again trying to wrap this up. I know this is a boring subject but let's try to reach an agreement. I don't think we need to write a long license, (...) (24 years ago, 2-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I'm still not sure about using 'S' for this, because S01 is commonly used for parts/s/ files. But I definitely agree with the idea. (...) Erk. Doesn't LEdit cut off file-references that a too long? (...) Authors have got to be careful to (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I use LDLite (mostly) in conjuction with LDAO (to generate the VEC images, and the HTML instruction images) and to generate the images for Partsref. Some things I'd like to see: 1. LDLite 2.0 doesn't crop saved images to the edges of the (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Anybody working on this part, or have it done?... Thanks, James Wilson (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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(...) As I have pointed out before, this is my most wanted feature upgrade of LDLITE nowadays. It looks a bit odd to see rendered images where the type 2 lines are 3 pixels wide, while the type 5 lines are plain one pixel wide. The other things you (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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it should read studs on sides not stud on sides (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Does anyone know how I can do rubber bands and belts in ldraw? (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Does anyone have the wire subpart that was mentioned a while ago? Can someone please post it? (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Well, with the stock market tanking and the prospects of a manditory pre-IPO crunch-time fading, I may have spare cycles to do something over Christmas. Please let me know who uses LDLite and how it is used. With all the other spin-around-and-view (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Is Paul Gyugyi not updating the program anymore? If not, is the version 2 source available somewhere? I've got Visual Studio -- could give it a shot/hack. James Wilson (...) (24 years ago, 30-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I see three reasons why this argument may be flawed, but I think we are confusing the meaning of subpart. 1) The Pxx number are all two digits, so 973p4.dat should never exist. 2) The same pattern on a part varient would be demand a suffix for (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I remember it being discussed, but I don't recall any agreement. The flaw I saw with this proposal is, is the file "973p4a.dat" an independent part all its own, or is it merely the first _sub_part of "973p4.dat"? The more I've been thinking (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Based on recent discussions here, I think we have agreed to allow alpha characters after the "p", to prevent pxx number expanfding to three digits (not a problem for 973pxx, but potentially for 3626bpxx and similar). That means that we can (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Chris, In a message you sent to me some time ago, you had mentioned that the "range" of "p40" to "p50" was set aside for the patterns from "Castle". However, I just noticed that we've used all but one of these pattern numbers for the minifig torsos. (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I think there might be a (minor) error in 973p34.dat. I noticed in my "sort by number" parts list that 973p34 was titled "Minifg Torso with Open Jacket over Striped Vest". ("Minifg" should be "Minifig".) I wasn't certain if this is unique to my PC. (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Monorail parts
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Hi, where can I find monorail parts like monorail wheels, etc. ? Thanx. Norbi (24 years ago, 28-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
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