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Re: numbers for "Castle" minifig torso patterns?...
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Wed, 29 Nov 2000 23:49:38 GMT
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Franklin W. Cain writes:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Chris Dee writes:
> >
> > Based on recent discussions here, I think we have agreed
> > to allow alpha characters after the "p",
> > to prevent pxx number expanfding to three digits
> > (not a problem for 973pxx, but potentially for 3626bpxx and similar).
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> I remember it being discussed, but I don't recall any agreement.
> The flaw I saw with this proposal is, is the file "973p4a.dat"
> an independent part all its own, or is it merely the first _sub_part
> of "973p4.dat"?
I see three reasons why this argument may be flawed, but I think we are
confusing the meaning of subpart.
1) The Pxx number are all two digits, so 973p4.dat should never exist.
2) The same pattern on a part varient would be demand a suffix for the base
part number, so in your example would be named 973ap4.dat, not 973p4a.dat.
Indeed we do have this situation for the minifig head - we have a 3626bp01.dat,
but equally there should be a 3626ap01
In summary (N=numeric, A=alpha, X=alphanumeric, P=P, C=C, S=S)
Base parts ............ NNN.dat NNNN.dat NNNNN.dat
Variant parts ......... NNNA.dat NNNNA.dat NNNNNA.dat
Decorated base parts .. NNNPXX.dat NNNNPXX.dat NNNNNPXX.dat
Decorated variant parts NNNAPXX.dat NNNNAPXX.dat
Shortcut assemblies ... NNNCXX NNNNCXX NNNNNCXX
Mini-parts (*) ........ NNNSXX NNNNSXX NNNNNSXX
True subparts s\NNNPXXC.dat s\NNNNPXXC.dat
(*) delivered from TLC on a sprue, like the helmet feathers
> The more I've been thinking about it, the more I'm liking what I do
> here on my own hard drive: _extra_ sub-directories. For example:
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> PARTS\
> PARTS\973.DAT
> PARTS\973\
> PARTS\973\P108.DAT
> PARTS\973\P108A.DAT
> PARTS\973\P108B.DAT
> PARTS\973\P109.DAT
> PARTS\973\P109A.DAT
> PARTS\973\P109B.DAT
> PARTS\3626B.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\
> PARTS\3626B\P108.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\P108A.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\P108B.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\P109.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\P109A.DAT
> PARTS\3626B\P109B.DAT
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> I am _not_ suggesting that we could realistically or conveniently
> implement this alternative solution for _every_ part that has patterns,
> but I _do_ think that it's a viable alternative for those parts
> that have a large number of patterns (or the _potential_ for
> a large number of patterns, i.e., minifig torso and head patterns,
> and decorated slopes and tiles).
That's fine for users of more recent CAD tools, but would deny LDraw users
access to the decorated parts.
> But I digress...
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> Getting back to my critique of the "alphanumeric" proposal,
> I also don't like the idea of an alphabetic character
> as the first "digit" of the pattern number, because
> that is _also_ where a part-number _suffix_ would go
> (as I believe Steve pointed out).
>
> However, I _do_ like the option of adding a two-character
> alpha_BETIC_ (and _not_ alphaNUMERIC) pattern number range.
> Thus, whenever we see "p11" or "pgq", we will _know_
> that the "11" or "gq" respectively is _without_a_doubt_
> the pattern number. We could re-sequence the StarWars patterns
> as "paa", "pab", "pac", "pad", (etc.), thus keeping them together.
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> In the case of a subpart for an alphabetic pattern number,
> the subfile would use a numeric suffix, e.g., the first
> subpart of "paa" would be "paa1", and so on.
I still see no reason why we could not use 973pa1, 973pa2, .. 973pa9, 973paa,
.. 973paz. Subparts only need to be named to avoid conflict, so there is no
real reason why any subparts for 973paa.dat could not be named s\973paaa.dat
s\973paab.dat.
> Thoughts?
>
> Franklin
Chris
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| (...) I'm still not sure about using 'S' for this, because S01 is commonly used for parts/s/ files. But I definitely agree with the idea. (...) Erk. Doesn't LEdit cut off file-references that a too long? (...) Authors have got to be careful to (...) (24 years ago, 1-Dec-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| (...) I remember it being discussed, but I don't recall any agreement. The flaw I saw with this proposal is, is the file "973p4a.dat" an independent part all its own, or is it merely the first _sub_part of "973p4.dat"? The more I've been thinking (...) (24 years ago, 29-Nov-00, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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