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Like in 973p11 "~Moved to 973p1a, 973p1b, 973p1c" - that would be OK with me. Chris (...) the (...) to (...) to (...) be (...) but (...) descriptions. (...) code (...) versions) (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) the (...) but (...) descriptions. (...) part. (...) code (...) versions) (...) Oh, yes - so I did - that's six then. I think you are correct about the other parts - we'd like to apply the same principle to those. Chris (22 years ago, 27-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Chris, I recommend we change the titles on the original part files to some variation of "~Moved to ...". That will give programs that analyze the library some chance of recognizing that these files are no longer going concerns. Steve (...) (22 years ago, 27-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) oooh! that's great! now peeron will be able to use these dats, and not have X parts for them! :) Dan (22 years ago, 27-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Cool! I see that you've also done the Castle/Forest Maiden. Are there any other such parts, aside from the Black Falcon shield? Minifig heads like Captain Redbeard, I suppose. . . -- TWS Garrison (URL) capital letters in address for direct (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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In the past, in an attempt to conserve the dwindling supply of two-digit pattern codes, we decided on a special way to handle patterned parts where the pattern existed in more than one colour. The base part was hard coded (usually white), and the (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) How's this coming along? Partsref still lists Tile 1 x 4 (without groove); was this piece discovered to exist? It would also be nice if the grooveless parts could have "a" appended to their numbers, and "without Groove" appended to their names (...) (22 years ago, 26-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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hi steve, (...) many thx for the hint. (...) are we takling about categories like "brick" and "plate" or sub-categories, which will need a renaming of the header? probably the fact that I just use MLCad causes some misunderstanding. I can't see a (...) (22 years ago, 25-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ASSOCIATE (was: Re: Renaming of 2916.dat)
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(...) WAY better than using naming to overload. 2916 and 2917 get at best a very weak association if they have train in their name. With the ASSOCIATE keyword extension it becomes quite explicit what their connection is. (and parts can also have (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: ASSOCIATE (was: Re: Renaming of 2916.dat)
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(...) Yes. Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmm. Interesting idea. So part 3937 (URL) might have an entry like: 0 ASSOCIATE 3938 6134 and part 3938 (URL) might have: 0 ASSOCIATE 3937 2440 (of course, these examples capture information that otherwise might be captured by a connectivity (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It might. (...) I can see your point. And I must admit that the first category I would search for this part under would be "Train". - Which certainly implies that "train" at least should be a keyword for the part. (...) Sort of. In principle (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It is not my intention to control the fate of this part forever and ever. But to have some input as to how it is categorized and where it ends up in the parts list. (...) (22 years ago, 24-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I would argue that 2917 probably belongs in windscreen or window, I guess? In an ideal world there would be a way to associate a part with its "partner" as it were without using naming, there just would be a link between them somehow. (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) True, but I feel this part might fall under Larry's "terribly unwieldy" escape clause. Even if he doesn't think so. (...) It's arguable at this point, but the long-term general idea is that you can do whatever you want with your original file, (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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BTW, I found part of that discussion I mentioned in my other post. Here's the text. I don't think Terry will mind me posting it. The file I found this in is dated 7/5/2001, the discussion is possibly a year older than that. Some things are out of (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Probably true. Some discussion on the train related parts to establish general standards may help though, and it may make sense to do so in the context of specific parts. With respect to this one, does it at all make sense to change the name (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hey - my first PTadmin hornet's nest !! Here's my rationalisation for changing the name, FWIW. The only comment on the part name in the review history is from Steve Bliss. No-one challenged Steve's suggestion that it should be linked by name (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: File Header request for Minifig Parts
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Hi Willy (and everyone :), I mostly agree with your idea that 'minifig parts' need to be rearranged. This has been a back-burner project of mine for over a year (and it had been thought about for much longer than that). Here are some things to keep (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi folks, the other day I was flicking through the "Other Parts/M-Library" looking for the "Minifig Top Hat" and it took me quiet a while to find it 'cos there isn't any criteria in naming the different minifig parts. There are: caps, castle (...) (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. And this part has already been used in non-train sets (the Res-Q hoovercraft comes to mind). Couldn't we put "train" in the keyword list instead of in the name? Play well, Jacob (22 years ago, 23-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Good point. I looked over all the parts in MLCad w/ the Train designator and found that, barring the parts previously mentioned and possibly the track parts, most of them don't even belong in that category (e.g. the doors and windows) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Train in my view is a very narrow group. There are a very few parts that belong in it. I would refer you to the PNLTC originated "diagram of train parts" that many train clubs use to discuss how easy it is to actually get started in trains. (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) The flip side of this arguement is that while it's only use may not be just for trains, the primary use is for trains. By your argument all the parts with the word Technic and Minifig in the title should be renamed as well. The reason that (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I agree (obviously since you referenced my post as your second ref)! (...) I disagree. That's not the intent. The license that is contemplated to be in effect does not let you as the author prevent people from submitting revisions to parts (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I would like to object on the strongest terms possible the "Modified part description" of the part 2916.dat. This is in keeping with my beliefs on how parts should be named. Please refer to: (URL) is not necessarily a train part. Is this file not my (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: Description of MLCad extensions available now
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(...) No idea. (I am not going to read that document, while Michael claims that its contents are covered by the quoted license) (...) Yes of course, but file formats are (AFAIK) not covered by copyright. If Michael wants to protect a file format, he (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Larry, sorry I didn't reply sooner but I was away on vacation. I guess everyone else must be too. Anyhow, I see you got my point. The whole reason for a parts license is to prevent new part authors from asserting arbitrary demands on the (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.mlcad)
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| | Re: File header questions/requests
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(...) Yes, these files should go through some approval process. I don't know about Chris, but I definitely can and do make mistakes. This is especially true when parts are renumbered - that new part number needs to be verified, if at all possible. I (...) (22 years ago, 22-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I have 1 comment and 1 PT request: 1.) Do we really need to submit files where the only change is the addition of keywords, a moved to statement, a file name change, etc...? I feel these things can be changed behind the scenes and do not have to (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Spheroid Generator now on the web
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"Erik Olson" <erik@olson.pair.com> wrote in message news:GzDJ3z.497@lugnet.com... (...) Geometrically speaking, what exactly is a tent? I generated an example so I have a sense of a tent being a kind of concave cone, as opposed to be sphere being a (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Color Problems
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(...) Hmm. Looking at the native color values (ie, without using LdLite's 0 COLOR statement to change RGB values), I think 320/260 are closer to the actual color than 356. (...) It was discussed awhile ago, I believe. Steve (22 years ago, 18-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I'll also be posting these revised files to ".cad.dat.parts" shortly... (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
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| | Re: Color Problems
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(...) I used color code 356 for it, for the MiniBot "SW Security Droid" pattern files (head; torso) on the Tracker... (I wasn't aware of any updates to the FAQ re: color codes for the new colors...) Thanks, Franklin (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: MPD compilers that support the LDR extension
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(...) Thanks for reminding me of the problem. The MPD Builder has been updated, so it handles both ".ldr" and ".dat" as LDraw file name extensions with ".ldr" as the default extension. You can download the source code og binaries for Linux/x86 from: (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: Color Problems
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(...) I've been wrestling with this one recently. I actually intended to update the color reference on ldraw.org, changing 323 to 320, but I haven't gotten to it yet. Colors 260 and 320 should be nearly identical, they both dither red with black. (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Re: File headers and the PT
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(...) No, these do not deserve a hold. In fact Steve and I quite often make cosmetic changes to the file headers before release - often as soon as we see them. Please be sure to point out the error in the your comments though. Chris (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Spheroid Generator now on the web
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Spheroid Generator is now a web page. With just a web browser you can get instructions showing where to put plates to make a sphere, cone, or tent in any size, using plates. Kind of like Mosaic Maker. I'll be working on this more, so that it can (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.announce) !!
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I think color 320 is pretty much spot on, but I'm open to other ideas. -Orion (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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| | Color Problems
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I'm having some problems when Dk Red (color 323). When I render an L3P generated POV of a Dk Red piece I get this: (URL) is definately not Dk Red, it's more of a tannish grey. When I render a piece with color 260 I get this: (URL) is much closer to (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jul-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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