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(...) In that case I agree it wouldn't be a derivative work. I am becoming more and more convinced that an MPD isn't actually a derivative work. (...) If people are willing to go to the effort of making or using an alternate part library in order to (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Sorry, that doesn't work for me. The license describes how someone must behave; lack of prosecution for non-compliance doesn't erase the ethical imperative to follow the agreement. And, since the non-commercial disclaimer is not actually part (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Actually I'm fairly certain the folks at Lego could easily devise a way to import a model file into LDD on a PC with NONE of the official Ldraw files installed. They could then generate a rendering in LDD and publish that on the internet, (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I figured you were which is why I called it unfair. Without the library the render cannot exist. Without the library the LDraw file is just a meaningless list of transformations and codes. (...) Which is precisely why we are stating we will (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Actually I was thinking of the LDraw library as the chisel(s), and to be honest, I don't understand why it's an unfair analogy. It just seems obvious to me. But anyhow, look, I like Ldraw files and renders. I want to see more of them. And (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That is not a fair analogy. Arguably POVray (or ldglite or ldview) is the chisel but the parts are a necessary part of the final work. There is no way to use a typical LDraw file without the parts library to render a scene. (...) You haven't (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I disagree. A sculpture may contain obvious marks from a distinctive chisel, but is not a derivative of that chisel. Now if you make a new chisel based on the distinctive chisel, that's a derivative work. (...) Again, I disagree. We clearly (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) In the case of model files I agree it is muddy however a model file means little without the parts to use it. If people wish to try to sell LDraw files without an attribution they are welcome to do so and you are probably right that LDraw.org (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wow! In my opinion, that's an extremely poor interpretation of "derivative works". Consider the model file. It most likely contains no actual bits of the LDRAW library. It simply contains references to the parts in the library, by names like (...) (18 years ago, 5-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Precisely. Tim (18 years ago, 3-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) So, basically, the licence means you need to credit LDraw whenever you render/create a model from it, but SteerCo aren't bothered unless its for commercial use? (18 years ago, 2-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hey, that would be me! (URL) Thanks to everybody who voted. More pictures of 'My Room' at (URL) Brickshelf>. (URL) play well, Jan Folkersma (18 years ago, 2-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) hi folks, taking into account all your valuable input the steerco has reworded the initial CAreadme.txt file in response to concerns which have been arisen in the disussion. please learn that we haven't changed a single character in the actual (...) (18 years ago, 2-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) !
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Congratulations to the winners of the January 2007 Model/Scene Of The Month (MOTM/SOTM) contests: (URL) MOTM, Mindstorms NXT cup collecting robot by Henrik Dalsager Christensen> (URL) SOTM, My Room by Jan Folkersma> The voting for the February 2007 (...) (18 years ago, 1-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce, FTX)
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Hi folks, we are half way down with the nominations. As outlined here: (URL) will close at the end of the month and elections will start the day after. Only those candidates that have been nominated, seconded, and have accepted as outlined, will be (...) (18 years ago, 1-Feb-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hi Zach, Glad you've got ideas :) I think the disco scene was a too hard in retrospect. While we may throw in some reflection and trasparency in future models I doubt there will ever be anything as shiny as the Disco scene. Challenging is one (...) (18 years ago, 31-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Awesome! Very nice model, and it should be a little easier than the disco scene due to minimal, if any, reflectives and transparents. I already have plenty of ideas, and can't wait to go tinkering. (18 years ago, 31-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi all, If you keep an eye on new articles on LDraw.org you may have noticed two new ones with the title RACHAL. Well, we haven't got a replicant working for us but we are relaunching my old raytracing challenges as part of LDraw.org. (URL) brief (...) (18 years ago, 30-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.ray, lugnet.announce) !!
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(...) hi james, all entries will be collected throughout the month and then added to the page - offline. when voting starts no new entries will be added. just think of the MOTM/SOTM contest. it wouldn't be fair. what you are seeing right now will go (...) (18 years ago, 30-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I have an idea about the ldraw contests. Why not send an email when a new entry is added to the webpage? Without some sort of reminder, I most likely wont even think to go vote. James (18 years ago, 30-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I'm not sure if I know what you mean here. But an importer will most likely create joints for all parts in the MPD. Otherwise it will be difficult to determine which to do and which ones not. (...) I'll see what I can add to help automate some (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Thank you for your polite enquiry. Externally, the situation is little changed since this announcement in September: (URL) a lot is going on in the background. Firstly we need to reformat the headers of the existing official library to conform (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Rene Virsik schrieb: (...) Please have a look at this thread: (URL) also hope that there will be more people that are working on the parts on the parts tracker. cu Michael Heidemann (mikeheide) (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Hi, I want to ask you if there will be some new official LDraw Parts ? The last update is from December 2005. Thanks. (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Thank {you} if you implement it ;-) - I'd hate to do all that work over again. BTW if you're able to incorporate that function, it would be nice if you can merge individual submodels since more than 90% of mine are usually just angled sections (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Ok, I just woke up 30 minutes ago after far too few hours of sleep (as usual), and realized that I should've just shut up and see how things unfolded... considering how many times the well meaning people of this community have managed to make things (...) (18 years ago, 28-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) If everything goes well, I'll expect the first beta in a couple of months. (...) Not as far I'm concerned. An actor describes the connections between an group of parts. You can then use any actor in an 'character'. And there is no coded limit (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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In lugnet.announce, Willy Tschager wrote: Neat idea! (...) Note that this doesn't stop someone submitting an update of a part that already exists (in the official library). I actually think that's good - major reworks of existing parts *should* be (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hi Niels, I could be misreading you but just in case it reads as though you are assuming that the reviewers submit the part for voting. That is not the case, the author must submit their own part which means that if you've submitted something (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) niels, what do you think content managers are for? voting will be of course a piece of cake! just like MOTM/SOTM. luckily I've already started to set up a ballot and luckily I've got already some entries - have a look: (URL) cannot vote yet (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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This is a really great idea... But I find it a little difficult to see how you can participate unless you're one of the small handfull of reviewers with a constant level of high activity: If you aren't paying really close attention to the PT on a (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) This is just the kind of program I've been longing for since before I decided to MLCad all my mocs - it was actually one of the main motivations. Man, I'm looking forward to see it completed!! A couple of questions: Assuming that the bot is an (...) (18 years ago, 27-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev, FTX)
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(...) Yes, After defining one or more actors, you can use them in animations whom will be rendered real time using openGL. While animating you can manipulate all defined joints in the actors using a tracker like editor. In this tracker you put (...) (18 years ago, 26-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Am I correct in understanding this lets you animate LDraw models in some limited way? If so, very good work getting it done so far. Does it output povray? Tim (18 years ago, 26-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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Just wanted to show you people that the LD4DModeler project is not dead, I'm still working on the succeeder and I'm happy to announce the first big step is done. I finished the basic 3D Engine and editors. I have put some screen dumps on my site. (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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The LDraw Administration Team officially launches the POTM – Part Of The Month contest for LDraw Part Authors. It is no news that programmers get most of the spotlight and little goes to "the unsung heroes of the LDraw CAD world" - this contest (...) (18 years ago, 25-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.announce) !
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(...) guys, before speculation grow wild I'll take the whole thing back to the steerco. thx for any input - though I have to admit that some posts go further than my wildest dreams ever did. as far as I understand the license both license files have (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I wonder whether a model file really qualifies as a "collective work" under this definition since an LDR file doesn't actually contain the parts definitions, only references to them. (Unless of course, the external parts definitions are (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) This is crazy talk. People sign paintings, but nobody is ever gonna staple a note on the back of a painting that says, "This painting was created with ACME brand paints and brushes." Please don't insert any such crazy demand in the ldraw (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) While rendered images are Derivative Works, I do not think you would have to add anything such as a copyright notice to them. The language of the CALicense.txt paragraph 4.2 says to the extent reasonably practicable or at a minimum where you (...) (18 years ago, 18-Jan-07, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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