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(...) It wouldn't. But I would (could) prevent him (and everybody else) from distributing renderings that includes parts from the Parts Library, since these are derivative works of the parts in the Parts Library. (...) Agreed. But Larry's problem is (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I want to address just this point for now. I don't see how ensuring the Parts Library is open would prevent Larry (or anyone else) from distrbuting a LDraw file commercially. Due to the nature of the LDraw file system, I would not consider an (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) My understanding about that was that the charge was a media charge, not a charge for the library or work itself. In particular I thought a lot of the revenue that Red Hat receives is for support. Personally I could see some far fetched (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I am not sure I mind allowing SteerCo/LDraw.org to relicense my parts under a different license, but I definitely don't want to give SteerCo/LDraw.org any special rights. That would also be a violation of point 5 in The Open Source Definition (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) <blink> How is the second item (a) a "protection" and (b) required by "the fundamental goals of Ldraw.org"? I would observe that Linux and the GNU Project seem to have done fine, despite frequent commercial redistribution for a charge (by Red (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) revise the (...) Yes, we're putting a lot of effort into getting this right. So, there shouldn't be any forseeable _major_ changes. To cite one example, IP law is continuously evolving; there may come a time when a change is required due to a (...) (20 years ago, 4-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) This is a tough one Dan. Before becoming a member on the SteerCo, I never gave licensing much thought, but I'm getting up to speed now. There are a number of issues about licensing as wel can tell by the many conversations from the past and (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I'm extremely adverse to a future SteerCo having the ability to change the terms of the EndUser license at will, especially after we're putting all this effort into getting it correct now. For an example, could the SteerCo give some examples (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Sorry, I was a bit too terse here. This refers to how we start. Do we have a way to migrate all the parts in, or do we have to get explicit recertification from each author of each and every part (many parts currently in the library hvae (...) (20 years ago, 3-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Sorry, I missed typed. I meant to say "If possible, I'd like to see a method by which we can revise the licence but not have to get explicit agreement from every author." I with Tim's above statments. -Orion (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I think I disagree here. One of the problems we have right now is when we implement the license, we will have to explicitly seek each author's approval. Some authors will be unreachable, which means we won't be able to gain their perimssion to (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yes. If possible, I'd like to see a method by which we can revise the licence but have to get explicit agreement from every author. (...) I want the ability to evolve the library. What I'm worried about is an author pulling their part out of (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Wasn't there a question if an author agrees to distribute the part under a specific license? As in, if you change the license, do you need to get permission from the authors, etc? (...) Are we still allowing us to rename parts? What about (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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FTX and me are not getting along tonite. In the interests of not having words disappear I am posting this in plain text. Apologies for the dups and cancels. In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote: In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry (...) (20 years ago, 2-Jun-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Not a bad idea I guess. Not a bad idea at all. I'm comfortable with meanwhile making it clear by signature though. (basically, if a post is signed with all 5 of our names, it's official, else it's not) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Maybe there's a need for a Lugnet user "LDraw.org SteerCo" so members of the SteerCo don't have to continue posting such disclaimers. Maybe limit posting range to CAD tree (maybe even ldraw tree?) and maybe announce. ROSCO (Added (...) (20 years ago, 29-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.admin.general)
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What follows is my personal reply not offical position of SteerCo. (...) I agree. We missed this goal, and it is indeed important. (...) True. And sort of false. Sometimes (take the change in the 9V train wheelset recently) there is a need to have (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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In lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, Larry Pieniazek wrote: snip (...) Larry: I think you missed an important user goal. The user wants assurance that parts will not disappear from the library when it is updated. The user has typically invested a great deal (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) The license draft included in my post was merely done to demonstrate that the language needed to license the people described is possible. I've condensed most of my points, and some new ones, into a new post that I've posted in reply to the (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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This is post to sum up my ideas before I pop off on holiday for a few days. 1) Consider making the license apply to more than just parts or the parts library. This would allow things like documentation or software to be distributed too. 2) I would (...) (20 years ago, 28-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) The tiling shouldn't effect the stud logos. I'm not sure why I had them turned off; probably doing some performance measurements between current LDView and "next-gen LDView". I'll have to wait until I get home to verify for sure that they (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Super! But, what happened to the stud logos? The tiling doesn't mess them up somehow, does it? That would look sooo good with bump mapped stud logos. ;^) Don (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Thanks for the warning, Travis, I'll be cautious of your future ideas ;-) -Tim (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) I think that it's a good idea. There is a built-in part genereator in SimLego too, but the parts it generates are far from today's LCad standards, and the SimLego source code is forever lost. A third way to go would be to write an LDraw Script (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I was going to post the image directly in the message, and was going to put "WARNING: large inline image" in the subject. However, I changed my mind and put a thumbnail in instead. Sorry about any confusion over the WARNING part. --Travis (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) OK, I updated LDView (haven't released the update yet) to support images up to 4096x4096 via tiling, whether or not your video card can go that high. I have a sample generated at 2400x1800--and then resized to 800x600--that can be seen by (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) Wow, I can't speak for everyone, but I'd love to get my hands on that. Could be a real good program, simple way to generate the kind of baseplates you need. You never know, you could turn that little program into a real nice little parts (...) (20 years ago, 27-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) I think this is what Don is refering to. Using Don's ldgliteargs to 800x537 on my aging 8 MB VRAM machine so ldglite would launch using the ATi renderer. GL_VENDOR ='ATI Technologies Inc.' GL_RENDERER ='ATi Rage 128 Pro OpenGL Engine' (...) (20 years ago, 25-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.mac)
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(...) Thanks Tim. The minimal requirements you speak of are incorporated in the Bylaws (in the goals of the organization section) already. Bylaws can be changed but I think anyone proposing such a change would be shouted down and rightly so. Because (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) I'd like to add to this one. It became clear to me in a recent conversation that this goal should be more defined. When authors submit parts to LDraw.org, it should be under the understanding that LDraw.org will always distribute their parts (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, FTX)
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(...) (I hope you see this reply. Since it no longer has anything to do with ldraw.org, I moved it to the general dev group.) I'm guessing you mean moving out the near clip plane. This can indeed help a whole lot. I actually set the near and far (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh, whoops. I had forgotten that you'd implemented the mirroring. My bad. --Travis (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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I am developing a building in MLCAD (which I have built). I intend to including an interior and may use cut (Gasp!!) baseplates for floors. Since the parts library did not include non-standard baseplates (like 22x12) I wrote a small program that (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Oh yeah, and bringing in the near and far clip planes also helps, especially with a perspective projection. Orthographic projections give me less of a problem with the Z-bleeding. Maybe you should add an ortho mode. Don (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I thought we fixed that. (2 URLs) (...) Nope. I have the same problem. Possibly even worse with antialiased lines. I give them an extra bump forward beyond the polygon offset. More bits in your Z buffer reduces the symptoms somewhat. (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Chittenden wrote: --snip-- (...) Ahh, that's perfect! Just what I needed, thanks. :) Nothing too detailed and overdone, just makes it look like people aren't drinking from empty glasses. :) Thanks a ton for helping. If (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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(...) The difference is that multisample AA only samples the texture once per pixel, while supersample samples the texture once per sample. This makes multi-sample AA significantly faster any time you're in a fill-rate limited situation. (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Whipped up a simple "filler" piece for the goblet. Fills the goblet to 3/4's full. Works best as a solid color in a translucent goblet. Here's a pic, the part will be available via my Brickshelf folder when it passes moderation. The goblet on (...) (20 years ago, 26-May-04, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts, FTX)
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