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I also have some questions, having just installed MLCAD 1) Is there a CAD/LDRAW/MLCAD FAQ anywhere? 2) When you download a file from cad.dat.models, how do you know if it should be a DAT file or a MPD file? 3) Why, when i click the DAT link in the (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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"Paul Sinasohn" <bearitone@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:FzEzA9.24r@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) 2) When you download a file from cad.dat.models, how do you know if it should (...) The files up there should be already formatted to the needed (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I don't think the file extension will effect the actual functionality of the file. Well, maybe if you called a DAT an MPD, things would act a little weird. So, if you don't know the exact file type, try DAT. (...) The file-type isn't (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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"Steve Bliss" <blisses@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:6jqnpsg4q0shhd0...4ax.com... (...) Why not? AFAIK, that's the only way to do it, if you want it to be automatic. Otherwise you have to select 'open with' each time. At least that's my (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) MLCad isn't the only thing that one could associate with .cgi, unfortunately. That's why. (.Dat either..., like I said before, we can't change it but it was a bad choice....) I don't know if this is a change in LUGNET, or a change because I (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Some issues here: 1. The automatic way of getting MLCad (or any DAT/MPD viewer) to launch when you download a DAT or MPD file is to register the correct mime type with MLCad. (1) LUGNET serves DAT content as mime type "application/x-ldraw", so (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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"Sproaticus" <jsproat@io.com> wrote in message news:399C0CBF.901134...@io.com... (...) this, (...) type (...) Alrighty. (...) save (...) No, I wouldn't. But I haven't run across a case yet where I have. (...) Which brings me to some ideas I was (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:FzFzoF.BKq@lugnet.com... (...) unfortunately. (...) it (...) Yup. Its been proposed to change it to .ldr or something of the sort, but never got off the ground. Is there any way to (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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Sure, I organize things by directory. And with the new file viewers/modeling programs that's no problem, as they can still find everything OK (mostly). The only problem is with LDraw and LEdit, which are "dumb" and need the models to be in a (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yah, I keep a directory \ldraw\archive\models\ handy for stuff I snarf. It actually goes a couple levels deeper: \ldraw\archive\model...)\(model)\ . Lately, though, I've been thinking of just MPD'ing everything to cut down on that last (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) It *could* be changed. Sort of. Obviously, the new programs could be updated to recognize .ldr and retain .dat as a valid file extension. And LDraw and LEdit *could* be binary patched to REPLACE internal references to .dat with .ldr - so LDraw (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I don't want to jump to conclusions here, since I'm less experienced at this than Todd, but I think this is what's happening: - User clicks the "DAT" link. This link points to a CGI script on LUGNET, named "ldraw.cgi", which is in charge of (...) (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.admin.general)
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"Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:FzFzoF.BKq@lugnet.com... (...) switched (...) that it (...) wrong. You don't really mean that last statement, do you :-) -John Van (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Anybody feel like building a ldraw.reg file, to set up standard stuff for DAT and MPD? Besides the browser-stuff, I'd love to be able to right-click DAT files, and have my choice of LDraw/LEdit/LDLite/L...e/TextPad, etc., etc. Steve (24 years ago, 17-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) The obvious issue I can see with this is the path to the executables. In some cases, simply having the .exe in the path is good enough, but I understand there are problems with this. I anyone willing to test a .reg file I just built? Cheers, - (...) (24 years ago, 18-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I think Not, MPD won't act as a virtual direcotry, since you can only use it to represent the model contained within it, not several, unless they all are part of a larger model, (same tree root) i.e. the first file included in the MPD. See ya (...) (24 years ago, 18-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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"Rui Martins" <Rui.Martins@link.pt> wrote in message news:Pine.GSU.4.10.1...0@is-sv... (...) It (...) \ldraw\archive\model...)\(model)\ . (...) down on (...) it to (...) part (...) MPD. (...) I'm thinking the same. I categorized my models into their (...) (24 years ago, 18-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) ^^^^^^^^ (...) Which is exactly what I'm using it for. :-, Uhh hummm, I guess "virtual directory" isn't the best term, as it implies a lot more functionality than what is possible. How about "model container"? :-, Cheers, - jsproat (24 years ago, 18-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Just having a .reg that I can tinker with (inserting my own path info) would be very cool! Different people may have different wants/needs in regards to the 'default' application for DAT and MPD. This almost begs for a "LDraw Registration" (...) (24 years ago, 21-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) That's not exactly true. The original MPD spec did not require that all archived files be part of a single model. With the addition of path information on the 0 FILE statement, it is possible to throw a bunch of different files into an MPD. (...) (24 years ago, 21-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Grrr... Shiri's been stealing my letters again! :-, (...) I simply hacked this stuff into the L3Lab settings. I'm not sure what the "EditFlags" values do, but it should be noted that this value doesn't exist on the default action... Anyway, (...) (24 years ago, 21-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Yes, but how do you do to draw only one of those models of the bunch in the MPD ? I think you can't unless, you edit the first file (index) of the MPD. With this in mind, an MPD does NOT work as a virtual directory, but it can act as a place (...) (24 years ago, 22-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) That's not my point - I was just saying you can put whatever (text) files you want into an MPD. That's very similar to a file directory, because there is not implied relation between the files in a directory (except that they're all in the (...) (24 years ago, 22-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) I hacked around with this a bit. The necessity of having path-names really limits the usefulness of this kind of utility, unfortunately. Hmm, maybe I could build a Wise Install wizard, which 1. Allows the user to pick which file-types they (...) (24 years ago, 22-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Oh! I forgot to mention that, since my LDraw tools are in the PATH, I was able to omit path-names. That .reg file is pretty much as-is from my machine. (...) That would rock. Is there any way you could keep the tool list open, in case more pop (...) (24 years ago, 22-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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(...) Ah. Hmm, that's a good reason to agree on a ldraw/bin/ directory (I hate dumping stuff in /ldraw/, and my path is already a mile long). (...) I think so--Wise is fairly open and customizable, but I've never played around with it. It would be (...) (24 years ago, 23-Aug-00, to lugnet.cad)
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