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    We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
   Our side bar is stagnant. Our Curator is MIA. We need a new Cuator. Someone who gives Two Bricks about making this place fun. * I make a motion to revoke the current curator. Do I have a second? * Privately I have been asking around to see who would (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: We need a new curator —Greg Oxsen
     GET DOWN!!! *bricks from lego mechas fort and eric sophies fort fly across the room* woo close one.. (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
     Funny - but it is not a personal issue - I just want to improve the situation - NO FLAMES! e (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Greg Oxsen
     (...) LOL that went down the crapper :-o In lugnet.build.mecha, James Harkness writes: (...) sho nuff dawg :D samus is tizite! i also wish to be added to LMHOF hohoho THATS FUNNAY! :( eric i say email big d00d who hands out curator, tell him i want (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —James Harkness
     (...) Missed this post... Thanx bro. I think you are the only one who understands my brand of comedy. (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Comedy? What comedy? —Dave Johann
     (...) And here I thought it was just the generation gap widening up again.... ;) -Dave (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.off-topic.fun)
   
        Re: We need a new curator —Tony Knaak
     I second. I think that Dave really innovated the sidebar here and made it alot more interactive, but it seems he has let it go. Now I know there are things in life more important and taxing then keeping up a running toll on what hot in .mecha or (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
     Thanks T, just to clear things up a bit, while our groups sits, dull and boring, a simple search on BZpower site shows over Two thousand posts by Dave, as well as being a moderator in several groups. AND running the last couple of contests over (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Rich Manzo
     As the BZPower Administrator, I would like to discuss Dave’s participation at BZPower since you have brought it up. Dave is one of our moderators. He is in charge of the BBC forum and does his job quite well when he is at BZPower. He also had run (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.suggestions)  
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
     I call it like I see it. We have not had an update in 4 months. While I came off as very serious, the fact still remains that he is MIA as far as I'm concerned. A responsible person communicates. We have heard nothing. I get no thrill or happiness (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Rich Manzo
       (...) Perhaps I should have explained more in detail. It is our policy to have an Administrator or Moderator start and manage contests. Therefore, Dave was called upon to manage two of them. However, he was not able to complete them and another (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.suggestions)  
     
          Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
      Hi Rich, although I have strong feelings about these matters, my goal is not to get too carried away. So I am hoping to remain open. (...) Sir, at least you were given some sort of explaination. We did not recieve the same courtesy. Listen, I for (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.admin.suggestions)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Allan Bedford
     (...) Perhaps not. Eric, while I can appreciate your enthusiasm for LEGO and for your particular theme, I think you are being a bit unfair in this case. You may wish to reread some of Rich's response... specifically this part: (...) Let's hope it's (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha) ! 
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
     Alan, with all due respect, spare me the platatudes, and stop making excuses for him. Flat out, things are 4 months behind and he could have avoided my calling out if he was just concious enough to let us know what's going on. (...) Dude. 4 months (...) (21 years ago, 8-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: We need a new curator —James Harkness
     (...) Holy sh......... uh All I know is whoever is curator of the LMHOF is BLIND because I have neither been added to it nor made SUPREME SHINING MECHA BUILDER MASTER RANGER which is so rightly deserve!!!...!!!-Semaj (URL) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Jeremy H. Sproat
      (...) You can have my spot. Cheers, - jsproat (21 years ago, 8-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: We need a new curator —Eric Sophie
      Still busting balls huh Jer. e (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: We need a new curator —Jeremy H. Sproat
      (...) Huh? Cheers, - jsproat (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Mark Neumann
      (...) He mentioned that he didn't read it anymore because there really isn't any use to reading here per lack of constructive criticizm. I'm looking at the above statement and think to myself,tThis is probably a good place to start. You are (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —Greg Oxsen
      i REALLY hope you know he was kidding, or else i will have to plummet off a cliff to my demise.. and there ARE cretiques, but sadly since this forum setup is so bizarre, you cant just click on the main topic and easily get critiques, it branches off (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Discussion Structure Trouble? (was: Re: We need a new curator) —Jeremiah VanderMark
      (...) I have to disagree with your point here. I see the organization system here as a blessing for critiques and discussion of work. In a normal forum, say EZBoard, all of the comments just pile onto each other and half the time the reader has to (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
    
         Re: We need a new curator —James Harkness
       (...) Ouch.... I was just jokin.....just a little joke..... you had to compare me to dave.....the best... his optimus isn't that great anyway....... sure it looks EXACTLY like the toy...... it doesn't even transform....... that was just my (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          How to critique, was Re: We need a new curator —Mark Neumann
      Critiquing is kind of tricky. It takes a certain amount of maturity on both sides of the table. To paraphrase one of my mentors (warning, he wasn't the kindest of souls. I remember the triage of broken souls after his class.); 'Don't tell me what (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: How to critique, was Re: We need a new curator —James Harkness
        (...) Ha! I like you. I ALWAYS give constructive and dynamic criticism. My critiques range from "Wow dude that mech is totally awesome!" to the complete end of the spectrum with "Holy cow that mech is pretty friggin cool!" So you see I am a critic (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: How to critique, was Re: We need a new curator —Kirby Warden
       (...) These are words to live by! One of the first "MOC"s I uploaded to my Brickshelf folder was a "replica" of an early Mark Sandlin Lego Creation :^) which turned out horribly rainbowed! It was like Lego Building 101 for me. My piece assortment (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
      
           Re: How to critique, was Re: We need a new curator —Dave Johann
       (...) Nicely put, Kirby! The only way to learn to build mecha is to actually sit down and do it. My starting point was to emulate Colin Gutierrez' building style and to branch out from there. Mark Sandlin is also a great place to start from due to (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: How to critique, was Re: We need a new curator —Allister McLaren
      (...) <snip> If I may be so bold to offer a suggestion to the curator: This post, or a modified version of it, should be on the sidebar. Allister (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
    
         You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Tony Knaak
      (...) Hoooly crap! Someone finally had the balls to say it! I have been wanting to rant about this, but I figured everyone would think I am a jerk off. Now I get to prove it :D Anyway to my point... Scenerio: Lets say a guy, I will name him Bob, Say (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Jeremiah VanderMark
       (...) just made [1]. It seems to be happening more and more, not just in .mecha, but everywhere else as well - Someone will post a MOC, and just recieve the "hey, that's cool!" message six times over. I'm just wondering what's causing this. Apathy? (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —John Henry Kruer
       In lugnet.build.mecha, Tony Knaak writes: <snip> (...) I agree. The lack of contructive criticism is a problem. Although I think a part of the problem might be on the builder's part, as well. Some people can't take criticism, and if they get just (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha, lugnet.general)
     
          Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Allister McLaren
       (...) God bless you Tony. That was a wonderful post. I'm farily new to LUGNET, but not to the creative process, and in the above passage there is an important lesson that any creative person (ie. everyone on LUGNET) needs to learn. That lesson can (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Soren Roberts
       Yeah, this ticks me off. I post a folder full of stuff, and I get plenty of praise but no real help or suggestions. Don't get me wrong, I like you guys, but I also want to learn from you. I don't see that happening right now, and it's a damn shame. (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —Eric Sophie
       So alot has been going on I see. Great! I was up all night a few nights ago packing my Mecha for BW03 and it wiped me out. I think I have been sleeping for two days now. I feel alot better and I have been giving some thought to this thread as I have (...) (21 years ago, 9-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —Brian Cooper
       It is difficult to say whether criticism in this realm is constructive. This issue gets to the core of the building process. My constructions have naturally become better over time as my brain has developed better neural connections for building. To (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —James Harkness
        (...) Couldn't that have been said any better?-Semaj (URL) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —Ross Crawford
        (...) I'd probably agree with that statement, however that doesn't mean it provides *no* help - I think criticism often leads one to experiment with new techniques, and to a degree, I think that can help one's building skill (make nueral connections (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —Geordan Hankinson
       (...) This is true to a degree, but constructive criticism is a part of it to some extent. I had been building mecha for about 8 months when someone told me that my proportions were wrong. I would never have noticed it by myself, or if I did it (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: Let's get some Good Feedback - Brutal Honesty makes a better builder - —Mark Neumann
       (...) You suck, that is a good teaser. How's bout a teaser pic? Mark Neumann Snow Daddy (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
      
           Re: teaser —Brian Cooper
       (...) Here you go then: (URL) managed to make a tight enough interconnection between four turntables and two throwbot gearboxes to make a new hip joint with full gear control of all movement. I actually wasn't intending to build a gundam and was (...) (21 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
     
          Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Dave Johann
      (...) Excellent point, Mark! This is one of the primary reasons that I don't post to every mecha I see-I don't wish to be percieved as a 'Cool creation, dude!' kinda' guy. Single sentence posts that offer no CONSTRUCTIVE criticism are essentially (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Mark Mueller
     Tony, This question is for you and those of you who post a lot of pics. How do you feel about critiques from people who have not posted any of their own MOC's to be judged? I usually hold back my negative remarks for this reason. I surely don't (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Mark Neumann
      Think of music Mark, how many out there comment on it? Almost everyone. How many of those are musicians? Not too many, less than 1/10 of 1% I'd say. And with a website almost anyone can publish an opinion. Bearing all this in mind, you can have any (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Bryce McGlone
     I'm going to put my 2 cents here. IMO Mark N's comments here, Mark N's comments there, and Brian Cooper's comments there are all valid in some ways. My own thought is that yes, this forum lacks any sort of real discussion, period. It's part of why I (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
    
         Re: You should all read this (was Re: We need a new curator) —Eric Sophie
     Phreak! Phreak! e P.S. Good points, I waiting to be blown away. P.S.S. Phreak! Phreak! (...) (21 years ago, 11-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: We need a new curator —Aiyaz Hussain
   (...) As much as I don't like to say bad things about others... I'd have to agree with Mr. Sophie. I've seen this happen to a lot of sites... The sidebar stops changing, the polls are no more, the links aren't updated... This is a sickening trend (...) (21 years ago, 7-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        No, we don't. —Dave Johann
   (...) 1) The sidebar always keeps changing-that's just the nature of the beast. New additions to it were even made tonight (thanks to Jon Palmer for the inspiration) 2) Working behind the scenes means that many changes are suble enough that the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: No, we don't. - Just do your Job —Eric Sophie
   Dave, I thought we resolved the issue, why are you persisting. Just do your job and I won't complain. Slack off again and I'll be on your back. I'm holding back real bad. Eric Sophie (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        let it go —Dave Johann
   (...) As far as I'm concerned, this issue is over. Don't complain publicly concerning things which should be dealt with privately. I never slacked off in the first place, so just let it drop and let me get back to working on the sidebar rather than (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: let it go —Eric Sophie
   Privatly Dave is being nice to me and I feel like a Jerk. I still beleve in what I said but it should not take up space here. We will resolve our issues elswhere as it should be done. Please excuse this noise. e P.S. Man, do I take my Mecha Lumps or (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: let it go —Dave Johann
   (...) What Eric said goes double for me. Yes, Eric, you take your lums well, but you give them just as good as you get. :) Meantime, Eric is getting a preview of a feature (something cool) that will make the sidebar look better and be more useful (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: let it go —James Harkness
     (...) Awwwwwwh...... I love you guys! Come on everybody group hug! (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        My take —Bryce McGlone
   Now that this is somewhat resolved I figure I'll pipe in. I know both Eric and Dave well. We are all friends and have been for several years now. I have found both men to be extremely generous with ideas, time, and (most importantly) parts. IMO what (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: My take —Eric Sophie
     Like cousin Dave and I went out back and wrestled on the grass in the backyard, then we came back in the house grass stains and all then sat down with the family to dinner. OMG, its Bryce McGlone posting in .mecha, OMG Phreak! Look Phreak! And Chris (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Trouble in paradise? —Jacob Sullens
   both these guys are good people, i don't see why they need to fight over something so trivial as a website! i reallize that the issue is resolved, and that i'm a little late in saying this, but i felt it needed to be heard...no insult inrended (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
   
        Re: Trouble in paradise? —Dave Johann
   (...) None taken, Jacob. Sometimes Eric and I get a bit more vocal than we need to and things go public that should remain private, that's all. .build.mecha is important to both him and I and I think neither of us really realizes how important it is (...) (21 years ago, 10-Feb-03, to lugnet.build.mecha)
 

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