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In lugnet.admin.general, Scott Arthur wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Leonard Hoffman wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Larry Pieniazek wrote:
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In lugnet.admin.general, Ross Crawford wrote:
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I think it does. If there was total trust, we wouldn’t require a policy
document.
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And THAT’S the crux of why LUGNET is at least partly broken. The admins
don’t trust (some of) the users and (some of) the users (not necessarily
the same ones) don’t trust the admins.
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OK let me put it another way, if it’s worth creating a P&P doc, it’s worth
assuring the users they will be listened to.
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Yeah, I don’t believe this. The LPRV is a great example. The Admins
gathered a group of people and said, we trust you guys! We want to know
what you think! And then, seemingly out of nowhere, they started accusing
the Admins of creating a rubber stamp committee.
If you don’t trust me, then no matter HOW many times I say “I want to
listen” - you will always think I’m lying to you.. or being sarcastic or
whatever. I’ve seen it happen quite a few times.
This is an excellent
example - Scott accuses me of being insincere when I was trying to
reassure. What then?
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Well, as long as it was Scott, it was easy enough to disregard. It was just
Scott, after all, noted button pusher.
But when we get this mistrust from people we used to respect before they
wigged out, or people we still do want to respect for their contributions,
despite their personal attacks, that’s more serious, isn’t it?
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Larry,
No. I’d start to worry when (arguably justified) personal attacks on a LUGNET
admin are spotlighted on
LUGNET’s homepage. For that to happen once is very unfortunate. For it to
happen repeatedly…
I’d be further concerned when “mistrust” in adimns dominates the
newsgroups or when admins
start attacking people publicly (and attack others with
abusive e-mails). But I’d be
most worried when a proven lying trouble making plagiariser whom a lot of
people think unsuitable is
made an admin.
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My miscounting was wrong, and I was wrong to say Larry did any abusive emailing.
I respectfully request that http://news.lugnet.com/admin/general/?n=12791 post
be cancelled, so that Larry no longer has to defend himself against false
charges.
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Be a man. Give us a break. Go away and get a life.
Scott A
PS… but all that is my “button pushing” opinion! ;)
PPS Are you the kind of Admin LUGNET needs?
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Not in my opinion.
Kevin
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