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Re: Language Choices and LUGNET
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lugnet.admin.suggestions
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Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:25:42 GMT
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In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Scott Arthur wrote:
> In lugnet.admin.suggestions, Calum Tsang wrote:
> > I would like to suggest a "down-light" option. Enough downlights could
> > moderate a post into oblivion. Then you would truly have a representation
> > of the "community" opinion on something.
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> You assume that the {membership} is representative of the {community}.(?)
Far worse than that-- "members who vote". Most members don't bother. The highest
rated thread I've ever seen got all of, what? 20-something votes? Highest I can
find on a cursory search is:
22 spotlights, 3 highlights:
http://news.lugnet.com/news/ahh.cgi?lugnet.off-topic.test,3340
23 spotlights, 0 highlights:
http://news.lugnet.com/news/ahh.cgi?lugnet.town,7877
How many members does Lugnet have? 2600+? And the most we get voting is
20-something? How many non-members do we have posting here? How many non-members
would vote, if allowed?
Calum's point (I think) was more related to the fact that currently, we can only
see that some members *like* something. There's no evidence that anyone at all
*dislikes* it, except for any replies they make to that effect. Hence, it would
be a community *opinion* rather than only the positive side of a story (not
allowing the negative essentially precludes anything but positive or
indifferent).
As for being truly representative of the *entire* community, pft. You'll never
get that. Best you can get is the sampling of AFOLs who care enough to post
online. Lots of lurkers and more casual hobbyists will either glance and not
respond, or not even read whatever it is in the first place.
And as for whether "membership" is a good statistic, sure, why not? It's a
pretty good way of ensuring that people don't get multiple votes (not without
its loopholes, but they're annoying to exploit), and it gives people an added
inscentive to "give back" to the community. It could also arguably be done on
Lugnet with people with posting setups, but that's more easily abusable.
DaveE
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| (...) the only effect it seems to have is to push something onto the top stories list. People highlight because they think a post deserves more attention. So once a story gets onto the top stories list, people stop highlighting it. If there was a (...) (20 years ago, 28-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.suggestions)
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| (...) You assume that the membership is representative of the community.(?) (...) You forget that this is the friendliest place on the internet! ;) (...) Hmm. Perhaps Kerry should be "eliminated forever". ;) Scott A (...) (20 years ago, 27-Jan-05, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, FTX)
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