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Subject: 
Re: No more spam from Helge Viker
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lugnet.admin.general
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Wed, 10 May 2000 04:01:37 GMT
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JOHNNEAL@avoidspamUSWEST.NET
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Kevin Salm wrote:

<snip>

> 
> I have been reading this thread as-it-happened (I get b-s-t via email) and one
> thing puzzles me about the whole affair.  No one went on record to explain why
> the original email from Helge was, could, or should be considered or classified
> as SPAM.

Unsolicited mass email *is* the definition of spam.

> From my perspective, the use of the word SPAM [1] to define the offending email
> is inappropriate.  It can be assumed that the only recipients were known Lego
> enthusiasts that may have had an interest in the items being offered.  While
> each recipient of the email was not known to Helge, they received the email
> with the assumption that they would have interest.

> Thus, since the sender assumed that the recipient would have interest removes
> the idea that it be considered SPAM.  As far as I define SPAM email. [2]

Nope.  You cannot make this assumption.  By your definition, I should be able to
spam everyone on earth with my new money-making scheme because I assume that
everyone would want to make money....

> If SPAM email is defined this way, then a large portion of the email I receive
> would fall into this category .  Just because I receive unsolicited email does
> not make it SPAM.

If it's an unsolicited mass email, yes it does.

> I have some family members and co-workers that send me stuff
> I do not want, for example, -- that does not make it SPAM, it simply makes it
> trash or junk mail.

If you are talking about forwarded jokes, etc. then you are correct-- it is junk
mail, because it has been sent to you specifically.  A person who forwards stuff
to his/her entire address book is a moron, not a spammer IMO.

> This whole thing could have easily been a non-event had the offending email
> simply been deleted by receipients who do not have interest in the offered
> items.
> 
> [1]  I also do not define auction flogs as SPAM, as does Todd Lehman

Why not just post in .auction?  That's what it's for!

> [2]  My personal definition of SPAM email may not be the same as other people's
> or that defined by a dictionary, etc.  However, I do not wish to debate or
> belabor this issue.

But isn't that what you just did? ;-)

-John

FUT .debate

> 
> 
> __Kevin Salm__



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(...) A happy ending for this episode, hopefully. I have been reading this thread as-it-happened (I get b-s-t via email) and one thing puzzles me about the whole affair. No one went on record to explain why the original email from Helge was, could, (...) (26 years ago, 10-May-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.market.buy-sell-trade)

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