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    Re: problem with dat groups. —Jeff Stembel
   (...) Some problems I have with the new setup: -Every message in the subgroups shows up. Example: I open .cad, and I get messages from cad.dev, cad.dat.models, etc. It is waaay too confusing to try to figure out what is going on. When I open .cad, I (...) (25 years ago, 22-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
   (...) OK, so you'd like a link to the part that displays just lugnet.cad, but not lugnet.cad.* ? (...) This is a feature, not a bug. Of course, it's not true that the canceled articles actually show up; you can't read them. Only the empty (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
     (...) OK Jeff, when you go to (URL) now, there is a link on the far left which says: View plain (without subgroups) If you click on that, then it pops you into a compact-article display of messages in lugnet.cad only, like the way a real newsreader (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
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         Re: problem with dat groups. —Jeff Stembel
     (...) Thanks! I noticed it in (URL) also, so I assume you put it in all relavant groups. Thanks again! :) Jeff P.S. When loading pages from Lugnet, it tends to "stall". It doesn't actually say "*K (Stalled)", it says "138 bytes loaded"(1) and just (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
     (...) What kind of Internet connection are you on (what speed) and where are you located? Do you have a dynamic or static IP address? I could do a traceroute to your IP address and see what kinds of latency there is. I don't think I've seen it (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Jeff Stembel
     (...) It always happens at work (I haven't accessed Lugnet from home in a while), where I have a T1. I have a Static IP address, would it help if I e-mailed it to you? (...) It may happen on other sites, but I can't remember any specific instances (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Jeff Stembel
     (...) Yeah, that's what I meant, and thanks for implementing it! :) (...) Maybe I should've been clearer. They were showing up in the compact view. I don't remember them doing that before. (...) Thanks! (...) Once again, Thanks! (...) I've found (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Tom McDonald
   In lugnet.admin.general, Todd Lehman writes: Todd, I realize I'm jumping in on this kinda late. First I noticed out of the hopper was that pages load more slowly. Not a complaint, just an observation. It made me sit up at work and take notice (...) (25 years ago, 23-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Tom McDonald
     (...) Hey Todd, forget that. I just noticed the nested/linear thingy. Awesome! This site just keeps getting better and better. :) -Tom McD. when replying, note that writing recursive spamcake code is a crime punishable by elevator music. (25 years ago, 24-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: problem with dat groups. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) There are a lot of things I don't like about the new interface, but this one is about at the top of my list... Everyone else is doing fine in categorising my dislikes so I won't bother repeating them... (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
     (...) Hmm, I kept wondering what you mean, because it -is- there on the group intro pages, but maybe you mean the direct NNTP link from the article display page? (Did anyone actually use those on a message by message basis?) (...) A lot of things (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Tom McDonald
      (...) Well, when my IE4 browser url field displays (URL) don't get a "open in newsreader" link on the page. I did use it from time to time, especially when threads went many directions, as people forget to alter subject lines to more accurately (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
     
          Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
      (...) Oh. OK, I see. That's not an intro (=introductory) page to the group but rather a secondary page. But it's still one that you probably use a lot(?) and maybe even the one you always use to enter the group(?). Hmmm. Is it OK if the direct-NNTP (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) yes and yes. I liked it when it offered both the regular and :8080 link, as I am still using :8080 (...) I'll try to spend some time with it, but I'd say the font sizes are still small. (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Todd Lehman
     (...) Oh my! You've got me confused now! Where on earth was there ever before links to either of the :8000 or :8080 port versions? I just grepped the old stuff and don't see it anywhere. I think the only place it was ever even mentioned is on the (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
    
         Re: problem with dat groups. —Larry Pieniazek
     (...) I was babbling. But if I WERE speaking coherently I might have said something like that, except c /8000/8080/ (note no * as I only want to change the first occurance). (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        "Open in NNTP newsreader" —Todd Lehman
   (...) All right, let's try this then... Hate to make it hard for people to get into a real newsreader. OK, so for better or for worse, (and let's hope we don't confuzz the heck out of net-newbies), in addition to there being a link in the left (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.cad)
   
        Re: "Open in NNTP newsreader" —Tom McDonald
     (...) No, no! I like it! I momentarily switched my monitor resolution from 800x600 to 640x480 to see if it was cluttered but it wasn't at all. Thanks for adding the traffic link too (a la Chinese checkers :), and also thanks very much for listening (...) (25 years ago, 29-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: "Open in NNTP newsreader" —Larry Pieniazek
   (...) Ya, I like that. The traffic cube is pretty cool looking although it doesn't evoke anything in particular. What's it supposed to look like? Now, another nit, can I have a back navigator? Right now, when I am here: (URL) can easily click on (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Local/native langauge forms of country names —Todd Lehman
   (...) Nothing in particular...just a grid of dots, some of which are active and some of which are inactive. (...) really "part of the system" -- it's just setup information, mostly. Hmm, is there still something there that's not available elsewhere? (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Larry Pieniazek
   Todd Lehman wrote (after heavy snippage): (...) It's the page that lets you easily get to the traffic page. To me it collects all the stuff together neatly. I remember that when last I used it, all the pictures on the right actually took me places. (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Todd Lehman
   (...) OK, you can get to the traffic page now pretty much from anywhere. (...) I'll hafta take some new screenshots before making the pictures clickable again. (...) Its purpose (always has been) simply as the introduction-point to the news-server (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Todd Lehman
   (...) I should back up a couple steps and explain the objectives of the /loc/ page. There are two at this stage: 1) For repeat visitors who know where they're going, it's a stepping stone from the root homepage to the individual town or country (...) (25 years ago, 30-Jun-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Jacob Sparre Andersen
   Todd: Just like Larry, would I find it very useful to have the country names in my native language[1] on the /loc/ page. It is kind of messy to mix several languages on the same page. Even if it is just place names. How do you choose how to sort? (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Todd Lehman
     (...) For right now, it's sorting ASCIIbetically, which is bad, and messes up Austria, for one. (...) I would *looove* to do that. But where, oh, where will I find a n^2 list of country names in multiple languages? Maybe just starting with a few (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
   
        Re: Local/native langauge forms of country names —Jacob Sparre Andersen
   .7AJ@lugnet.com> Distribution: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Todd Lehman: [ /loc/ page in all languages. ] (...) Yes. (...) Different country[1] (even though Danes do seem to think they own it). Jacob 1) <URL:(URL) (and this one should work) (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jul-99, to lugnet.admin.general)
 

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