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(...) (intentionally (...) Filter them out (...) want (...) out (...) auction (...) I agree 100%. (...) But that does not mean that that opinion does not exist? (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) This was my point. (...) Indeed. But many may consider "box shifters" OK. (...) To allow easy filtering. (...) want (...) out (...) auction (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) 1. It will create more work for the admin council who by your suggestion have to preapprove these auction posts. 2. It will create confusion and friction because people will say, "Why can't I put my eBay auctions on then? It's all castle (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) mitigating (...) No idea is "unnecessary". (...) I agree 100%. I think I have suggested this at least once in the past, both times it was knocked on the head. This is well suited to groups like technic. (...) Indeed. Scott A (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) The reference is to auction posts of any kind, whether they are considered spam or not is irrelevant and depends on each individual. (...) I'll quote your original post and reply to that, if you don't mind: "I suggest the pre-auction (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> Let me be among those to vote that this is a Bad Idea (tm). Further mitigating this is the fact that it's an Unnecessary Idea. Now, I'm all for market groups that are themed (ie lugnet.market.castle, lugnet.market.space, etc). I (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) In what way? (...) To ensure buyers are fully aware of what is available. If this change was to come into action, it would put private auctions on a par with private sales. Nothing more. (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Todd Lehman (<Fr10vA.7Ex@lugnet.com>) wrote at 00:47:34 (...) How about this as a first attempt. It doesn't say anything about prohibiting auction announcements, but that can be added, if required. "lugnet.#theme# was set up to (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Not only do most people object to allowing this - but the only people I've seen who are for it are potential *sellers*, not buyers. Furthermore, this goes against what Todd said: "It was never the intention for the welcoming to occur by any (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Yes, but as the title will say it all - it will be plain to see what the post is. Furthermore, I'm sure a prefernces switch could be invented for them. (...) Private auctions are not all that common. 99% of auctions go straight to ebay. Scott (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Scott A (<Fr25sL.L2o@lugnet.com>) wrote at 15:31:33 (...) There are some people who Really Don't Like Auctions. They can't be filtered out from the web interface, which is used by a lot of people. To put auction announcements in, (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) But if they are not in at all, they don't have to be filtered out. If the theme-name would be included in the posts in market.auction they are very easy to find there with the search function for newsgroups and then there would be no (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> I think this clarifies the 11th point very much, and is a big improvement. -Shiri (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) <snip> (...) Well I wanted to post a response to your origional message as soon as I saw it but I decided to wait and see the responses it got. Anyway I agree totally with Steve here. Speaking as someone who only rarely participates in (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Which is why these the anouncments would be _very_ easy to filter out. (...) This is very much a "chicken & egg" debate. (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) One man's spam is another's luncheon meat, and yet another's chopped pork and ham. (...) On what basis? (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I agree. But this is probably needless to say: As far as I can tell, the philosophy of LUGNET has been to separate between discussions and commerce from day one on. We wouldn't want the discussion groups to be as noisy as RTL is now, would we? (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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In lugnet.admin.council, Scott A wrote: [clipped a bunch of stuff about allowing auction announcements in a large number of groups, thus enouraging auctioneers to spam lugnet, and causing members of .council extra work at no benefit to themselves or (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) privately run (...) side. (...) auction (...) This is just to reflect the fact that private auctions are hard work for the seller, and more of a service to LUGNet (IMO) (...) Just to keep volume down I suppose (...) Most set stay on the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) I find it hard to give an opinion about this subject. I don't see a benefit in it for myself. I check lugnet.fabuland and do a general search on the word fabuland. Therefore, I now already find the pre-auction announcement if they contain (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Ebay announcements would be explicitly _excluded_. (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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I totally disagree!!!...!!! Leave ALL auction announcements in AUCTION. The auction announcements, especially Ebay annpumcements are annoying enough as it is. Please don't do this to us!!!...!!! Rose Scott A wrote in message ... (...) (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.general)
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The LUGNET Terms of Use document, (URL) changed slightly and is now a little bit clearer regarding the posting of auctions. This is not a change in site policy but a clarification of existing site policy. (You do not need to re-accept new terms.) (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.announce)
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(...) That's an excellent question. To some extent, yes, that framework does exist, and that is part of the role of the lugnet.admin.general newsgroup. Perhaps a more focused group (i.e., lugnet.admin.news) would better serve discussions about (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Todd Lehman (<Fr10vA.7Ex@lugnet.com>) wrote at 00:47:34 (...) Yes, it is obvious that it's about Castle stuff, but if I was only interested in Castle, and I'd gone straight there, I might have missed some of the more general (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) It won't be a policy change, just a couple of additional sentences clarifying existing policy. Yes, the clarification does need to be added, else the confusion remains. --Todd (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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Does a framework exist for the subscribers to a group to change its charter? If it does not, should it? Scott A "Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr1pMH.FtG@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) its (...) which (...) do (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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"Todd Lehman" <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message news:Fr1pMH.FtG@lugnet.com... (...) this (...) its (...) Perhaps it does not need changed? (...) which (...) do (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) All right, Scott...point taken. You've made it clear to me that #11 needs a clarification. I'll fix the Terms document and post a brief message about the text change. It was never the intention -- even in the remotest sense -- for "groups (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) DISCUSSION GROUP TERMS AND CONDITIONS LUGNET includes discussion groups which allow feedback and interaction between users. LUGNET and its owners and/or operators do not control or censor messages, information, or files delivered to discussion (...) (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Reminder: lugnet.market.auction is the only lugnet newsgroup in which auction announcements or updates are appropriate. Please do not spam the theme-discussion groups with auction announcements. Thanks. (URL) to lugnet.admin.general] (25 years ago, 7-Mar-00, to lugnet.duplo, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) That should be "intermediate," not "intermedia." :-p --Todd (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Okay, cool! Thanks for clearing that up for me. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) OH, I see what you mean now. No, the "transparent caching" (meaning internal intermedia results only -- not external results) is not a function of the server. It could be, and probably someday will be (if it needs to be), but it isn't that way (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Well, the neat thing is, either way, there actually isn't a special case after all. That is, in the specific case of zero votes, there doesn't have to be a logic-fork because the sum of zero votes is 0, and dividing 0 by n+1 (n=0) is still 0. (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Okay, I'm confused. Please see my response at (URL) refers to a conversation we had last May: (URL) particular, I'm confused about "transparent caching", which I understood to be a function on LUGNET, rather than a proxy or the client. Cheers, (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Oh, yes, that kind of caching. That kind of caching _should_ be happening, yes. If that's what Jeremy's seeing, then that's the intended behavior (just like any other static .html page). Oops, I snipped too much of what Jeremy wrote when I (...) (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Arg. I did say that I saw it. Figure of speech, and all that... Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Erm, no I haven't *seen* them cached, just remembering this conversation: (URL) - jsproat (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) Saw it, interpreted it that way, filed it under "not worth pursuing". Steve (25 years ago, 6-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general)
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