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    Now what? —Dan Voelkerding
   After we all recieve these nice Lego cars designed by James Mathis, we are going to need a Train Station. To be honest, I would rather see a Station than a B-unit or Steam Engine wheels. But, I don't know, what does everyone else think? I also think (...) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Now what? —Kecia Hansen
     (...) I totally agree. Release the 2150. We need it! :) Kecia (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —John Gerlach
      (...) And *not* in yellow or red. How about tan or grey? As you can see, I'm rather partial to a tan station with white windows and a black roof: (URL) JohnG, GMLTC (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —Kecia Hansen
       (...) Holy smokes! That's a BIG station. Kecia (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —John Gerlach
        (...) We try to build to the scale of the 8-wide trains. The platform should actually be much longer. The GMLTC firmly believes that "bigger is better". We blame it all on John Neal... ;-) JohnG, GMLTC (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) Roger, Roger! (...) Well, he started out to build a 2150 (in alternate colors but following the directions exactly), but as you know, the GMLTC members are known not to follow directions well. :-) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —John Gerlach
        (...) HEY!! That's *OUR* line! <grin> We're also trying to come up with a way to put a large opening in that big black roof, so people can see into the station easier. Currently, if we want to show off the interior details, we have to lift the roof (...) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
        I'm always the guy making him nervous. I love showing that the roof comes off! I've taken to brining a cooler so kids can stand on it and peek in at the scenes inside. No problems.... yet. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —Kecia Hansen
       (...) Heh heh. Love the idea, about a new colour. Kecia (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —John Neal
       (...) A big AMEN to that. I'm all for bringing back classic *designs*, not necessarily *sets*. The 2 elements I'd most love to see produced in a color not currently available are the 4x3 low slope and the 3x3 low double corner slope in *dark gray* (...) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Tom Stangl
       Well, they've been CAST in dark grey, just not for public consumption. Someone posted a MOC from Europe a copule weeks back, using the dark grey low slopes gotten from a Red Letter day at Legoland, from what I can remember. Personally, I think they (...) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Jason J. Railton
       (...) That was me, with my version of the Oakham, Rutland (UK) signal box: (URL) just about acquired enough dark grey concaves to put proper gables above the windows of this station too: (URL) it's insane how hard it is to get the bricks! The (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Lawrence Wilkes
         "Jason J Railton" <j.j.railton@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:H07n5n.Fn6@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) for (...) I have come to the conclusion that Lego, and/or specifically Lego Direct, have little interest in increasing the variety of bulk (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
        I always find these types of comments fascinating. It could be that LEGO has changed quite a bit since I was a Model Builder for them. (Well it’s changed a lot in that most of the shop I was part of was moved off shore.) One of the common (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —Lawrence Wilkes
          "John Kelly 3" <jkelly3@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:H07sxL.5wA@lugnet.com... (...) any (...) complete (...) If (...) were (...) always (...) The inventory you had available to you in the model shop is nothing to do with the inventory of parts (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
        
             Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
         Actually the bricks I had available in the model shop had everything to do with the inventory that Lego had. Where do you think we got our bricks from? You think that they would be unwilling to send us the elements we wanted if they had them? The (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —Ludo Soete
        (...) Perhaps it is, but they made 'recently?' a whole lot of new models for the LEGOLAND GERMANY park, so, i guess they run a whole lot more bricks than they used for the models they build. I visited LEGOLAND WINDSOR too in the opening year and (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
        Honestly, I couldn't tell you. I was in the American model shop in Enfield and we had constraints that the model shop in Billund did not have. (Windsor Locks was just opening in my time and the Billund shop was handling their models.) We were not (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —Paul Sinasohn
         (...) Well, I have a couple dozen assorted 'swirly' bricks.... They are kept very securely locked up. Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —James Trobaugh
        (...) Actually I have some of those, I found them inside of the sculptures that we rescued ((URL) They're kind of a funny brown gray color with lots of swirls. These were used as structural supports inside of the sculptures. While repairing the (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
         You both have something that I tried for two years in the model shop to get my hands on to no avail. *grin* Congrats! Best I could do was some of the hand molded new elements that they used to prototype new model designs. -john 3 (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
        
             Re: Now what? —Paul Sinasohn
         (...) Pocketses, my precious-sss...sss, Pocketses!! The secret to successful snarfing is lots of Pocketses. Gollum (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
        
             Re: Now what? —John Kelly III
         I dropped the Lego Direct group. LOL Man, I tried. Actually I had such a mess of things when I quit as a Model Builder they just let me take home 2 K8s of bricks rather than have to sort through them. -john (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Now what? —Rob Hendrix
        Thats a nice truck JT. I especially like the personalized plate! -Rob "James J. Trobaugh" <james@ngltc.org> wrote in message news:H0BnwF.n0C@lugnet.com... (...) change (...) two (...) we (...) funny (...) supports (...) these (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
       
            Re: Now what? —James Trobaugh
        Thanks Rob, I bought it just for hauling LEGO, my wife was tired of me taking her van every month for train shows. jt (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
       
            Re: Now what? —Rob Hendrix
        I just bought an 2003 Toyota Matrix for the same reason. I call it "hers" and let her drive it, but it hauls Lego really well! Rob "James J. Trobaugh" <james@ngltc.org> wrote in message news:H0DDCo.B8y@lugnet.com... (...) the (...) that (...) (22 years ago, 5-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —John Neal
       (...) of those for my interlocking tower, too! :-) :-( -John (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Now what? —Frank Filz
       (...) than (...) Pink... (URL) sure there are better examples, but I couldn't find one. Frank (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —Sheree Rosenkrantz
        (...) pictures of a wide variety can be found at (URL) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
      
           Re: Now what? —Jason Spears
       (...) Ok, I obviously need to keep my eyes more open. I don't remember seeing that last time I rode the train through Beverly Shores. Wacky. -Jason +---...---+ Jason Spears MichLUG - (URL) Lego Page - (URL) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —Jared Chan
      Maybe LEGO can rerelease 4554/2150 in different colours for us to choose from, just like what they are doing to the steam engines KT10X, KT20X, KT30X, KT40X. (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —Dan Voelkerding
      (...) Yeah, thats probally where the color system would have worked, or maybe they should of tryed a SFSC Freight Unit(Blue and Yellow) Dan (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Thomas Stangl
     But release 2150 with a DARK GREY roof, and maybe light grey bricks for the walls. Or sand blue. Or Maersk blue ;-) (...) -- Tom Stangl ***(URL) Visual FAQ home ***(URL) Bay Area DSMs (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Paul Sinasohn
     (...) Nah, Sand Red roof and Chrome Green bricks :-) To move this on topic, pictures of the Goose #6 will be submitted tonight to Brickshelf. Paul Sinasohn LUGNET #115 (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Now what? —Steve Barile
     Interesting quote here... "Hopefully, someday Trains will be as good as it once was." I would assert that today, right now, is a LEGO Train heyday! There are at least two reasons to support this. 1) There are more 9v train models/sets available (...) (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —John Neal
     (...) _Without question_ you are correct! And it is my feeling that it is only going to get better-- WAY better! As Brad Justus once intimated to me, "You ain't seen *nothin'* yet!" -John (22 years ago, 1-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Now what? —Guido Heunen
     Hi, Now what? Well we can make our own MOC's of trains/cars/housing but NOT TRACK. So I would like to have MORE DIFFERENT TRACKS: - different lengths of track elements - different radius - more turnout geometries (curved, tripple) - different (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Now what? —Adrian Egli
     Nice thought. When you examine what LEGO has been putting out recently in its train line what do you see? My eyes see this wonderful thing called variety. You've got Metroliner, Santa Fe (and cars for it!), the small and large train engines with (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Jason J. Railton
     (...) Bear in mind that an awful lot of Lego train enthusiasts look at these and think "Metroliner -> Amtrak -> American. Big red caboose -> American. Santa Fe -> American. Silver carriages -> American. When are we going to see some variety?" (or (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Frank Filz
      (...) Well, I guess to Europeans, the trains of the past have been bland and generic (though there have been less generic models like the Crocodile). To Americans (including Canadians), the trains have had a distinctly European flavor. I agree (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —Huw Millington
       "Frank Filz" <ffilz@mindspring.com> wrote in message news:H087EE.5yI@lugnet.com... (...) The shift from the old 9v models being loosely based on European prototypes to the new ones being based on US prototypes is I believe due to the fact that LD (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —John Neal
       (...) A great way for TLC to get their foot in the door WRT to European trains would be to get a licensing agreement with Britt Allcroft and produce some Thomas trains. Since they are all based upon prototypes anyway, I would think that we'd all (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) well, color me confused, don't we already have all that in 4563 and 4564? Just dust those off and reissue them (in different colors perhaps)! (...) But ya, everyone needs a Thomas. (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Huw Millington
         "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:H08J4H.oG@lugnet.com... (...) That's exactly what I want to see, yes we *did* have them, but no more... Huw (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Jason J. Railton
        (...) Tell you what Larry, I'll colour you bright red, yellow and blue and see if that helps clear things up! :-) I guess these have all looked European in the past. The "DB" stickers didn't help matters. Being British though, they look as foreign (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Jan-Albert van Ree
       (...) 4563 : loco doesn't look much German/Dutch to me... maybe French, but then the colors wouldn't be right. The red closed freight car is OK-ish, the rest is pretty much simplified 4564 : loco is pretty decent, bit like the MaK diesel range. (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Larry Pieniazek
       (...) OK, OK... you guys convinced me. The stuff I perceive as european is no more authentic (to european prototypes) than the stuff you perceive as american is (authentic to american prototypes, that is). But parts is parts. We. are. not. the. (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
      
           Re: Now what? —Jan-Albert van Ree
       (...) Like I posted before in various threads I agree we are not the target market. Maybe if you have the finances to buy tons of sets just to get a few parts you need you can build whatever you like, most of us probably can't. And even then, some (...) (22 years ago, 4-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains, lugnet.lego.direct)
     
          Re: Now what? —Adrian Egli
      I would love to see an Orient Express! But seriously, the "Americanization" of the trains has got me as well. A revised 7745 TGV (fell in love when I first saw it in '85) using more current parts or something really new as an ICE would certainly (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —James Trobaugh
      (...) I think the 4561 still serves a purpose as an entry level set. It's the only train set that you can get and run right out of the box. So I think it will stay around. jt (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Horst Lehner
      Hello Jason, (...) With the exception of the Metroliner, this is exactly why I don't own any of these sets. I have to admit I am tempted to get some of them just for parts, because they do have really cool parts. But I am more into 12V anyway, even (...) (22 years ago, 2-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
     
          Re: Now what? —Ludo Soete
      (...) <snip> (...) I'm also missing the possibility to tap-off current from the train wheels. When this is possible, then we can add lights (LED's)in our passenger / freight cars. Just thinking on the red light that you find back on the last freight (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
    
         Re: Now what? —Douglas Pegram
      (...) The other night I was looking through a curent Marklin catalog and something occured to me...the shape of the front/rear ends of current Euro freight engines is just about identical to the shape of the canopy on Jango Fett's ship, all it (...) (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
   
        Re: Now what? —David Graham
   We need a new train set in the shops not just from LEGO direct so that ordinary children see them and buy them. Lego trains should not just be for those with internet access. It should be based on a real train. David (22 years ago, 3-Aug-02, to lugnet.trains)
 

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