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Re: When is a website "independent" and when is it "part of"?
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Sun, 22 Oct 2000 16:53:46 GMT
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Oh dear. I knew it'd come to lugnet too sometime. I've had enough politics in
the past three weeks to last a lifetime, but here goes anyway.
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> What the US (and others)
> do independent of the UN is political mumbo jumbo all based on selfish gain.
Maybe true. In fact, probably true.
> Take what is happening in the middle-east right now. If the US were to
> withdraw some of its dogmatic support for Israel - it would have ended
> days/weeks/years ago.
Oh my.
Why *would*/*should* the US remove its so-called support for Israel?... huh.
Have you really been seeing what's going on? I can tell you a little bit.
Israel was all but ready to give the PLO about 90% of the land in the west
bank. Barak even came forth with some sort of idea regarding Jerusalem. But
Arafat was not ready for this. Letting Israel just give away the land would
put Israel as "the good guys" in the world's eyes and Arafat did not want that
(even though it's true to some extent). So the Palestinians turn the tables,
riot here and there, throw stones, make it so Israel has to use force to stop
them.
Look, I could tell you a lot about what it really is to live in Israel. But
think about this. What Barak did to stop the riots was necessary, so that Jews
living in Israel aren't afraid to walk in the streets.
The international media is doing a great job of twisting this all to make it
seem like Israel is the "big bad guy", and I'm sorry to see people really
think that way. The Palestinians could have had an independent country without
using force and violence. But they've showed pretty clearly that they will NOT
rest until Israel is wiped out.
Yet the blame is put on Israel. Sorry but I just don't buy it.
<deep breaths, Shiri, calm down>
It's very easy to put the blame when you're sitting in a safe house in the UK
or the US, watching people getting killed on TV (surely you saw the lynch of
two reserve soldiers who happened to take the wrong turn?). It's quite another
thing when your best friends see signs saying "Death to Jews" in the nearest
town, and your sister is afraid to take the bus or cab to get to the
university where she studies. Oh well. It's your right to blame whoever you
want. But if the US removes what little support it's giving .il right now,
that will give the Palestinians yet more legitimation to keep on with the
violence.
<exhale>
Sorry, but this stuff hits close to home, literally. Can't help it, really.
-Shiri
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