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(OK, not really an announcement, as the word is already out.... once again I
am left in awe of the speed with which news travels*. But humor me for a
moment.)
LEGO Direct is extremely pleased to announce the launch of the "My Own
Creation" series, which features original designs by LEGO enthusiasts. The
first set to be released in the MOC series is the Blacksmith Shop with an
original design by Dan Siskind. (We have tried to remain as faithful as
possible to the original design; minor alterations have been made to allow
for element availability issues and to improve "buildability.")
The Blacksmith Shop is, to our knowledge, the first LEGO set ever released
by LEGO that was *not* designed in-house by our designers. If anything,
we're more excited about this series than anything LEGO Direct has offered
to date -- the MOC sets really show off what *anyone* can do with LEGO if he
(or she) puts his (or her) imagination to work. And isn't that the truest
expression of the LEGO brand? LEGO is all about what *you* can imagine and
create -- and not necessarily what our designers can dream up. We know that
you and other enthusiasts (of all ages, because believe me, kids are doing
some amazing stuff too!) have built some incredible creations; we want to
help share that creativity with as many other LEGO enthusiasts as we can --
because by sharing, we share what makes LEGO great. So that's why we
launched the MOC series.
Obviously, the biggest question on everyone's mind is how the designs for
the series are (or will be) selected. Let me state up front that we will
*not* accept unsolicited designs (this isn't anything new -- we've never
accepted such submissions). We're proactively selecting the designs that we
will use. (As Dan noted in his post, we contacted him.) So please, please,
please, don't send us pictures or boxes full of your creations unless we ask
you for them -- for legal reasons, we must return unsolicited design
contributions to you. (You can imagine that I've got the company attorneys
nervous enough just licensing outside designs to begin with!)
Members of our team do look constantly at what's being created by you (we
peruse Brickshelf, the Guild of Bricksmiths sites, personal home pages; we
keep an eye out at various events, LEGO Club, and LUG gatherings; we get
recommendations from other enthusiasts -- and that's just a little of what
we do). We know there are thousands of great creations out there -- but
we're just getting started with this, so give us some time. We will probably
take many different paths with the selection process: we may have a contest
around a specific theme; we may select an existing design; we may commission
an entirely new design. Anything is possible. And yes, we are compensating
the creators for their designs (in order for us to produce a set as an
"official" LEGO set, we must own all rights to the design).
We hope to make the MOC series an ongoing one, but -- as with so many of the
initiatives we have launched in the last year (sculptures, trains, Legends)
-- we've never done anything like this before, so we'll have to see what
happens once this hits the market. (I'm not particularly worried, though;
let's just say that there's absolutely no question anymore about whether the
sculptures, trains, and Legends were good ideas! I see no reason that the
MOC series will not perform equally well.) We'll be giving this product lots
of support -- it's on the back cover of the January 2002 LEGO Shop At Home
catalog (due in a couple of weeks), and we'll be giving it prominent play on
LEGO.com as well.
(You may ask -- at least I know Allan Bedford will! -- why we aren't posting
this announcement on LEGO.com. The answer is that traditionally, we
"prelaunch" many of our themes for the next year in mid- to late December
--for example, the new Alpha Team, Soccer, and Racers sets are in the online
shop right now; Harry Potter and Star Wars are coming next week. But
*marketing* of the new products doesn't actually take place until the New
Year begins. We want to keep our marketing focus on the current year's
products through Christmas, and then turn to the new themes. But that
doesn't mean that we can't sneak some products out early....)
The Blacksmith Shop will be sold exclusively through LEGO Shop At Home in all
LEGO Shop At Home markets. It is available for preorder on LEGO.com now --
it is listed under "Hard to Find" in the Shop At Home Exclusives category,
but we will soon be adding it to the Castle category as well. The price is
$39.99 in the US, and will be equivalently priced in other markets. It will
be shipping in late January.
(I'll post in the next few days regarding some other issues raised recently
here. We're not ignoring anything anyone has said, but please bear in mind
that this is absolutely our craziest time of the year so it's more difficult
to get the time to respond than usual. Thanks in advance for your patience.)
As always, Play Well. Best wishes for a happy holiday from all of us at
LEGO. And may Santa leave many bricks beneath your tree.
Best Regards,
-- Brad
* I mean, really! I don't think the item had been up for more than 15
minutes in the shop when the first post appeared. And I thought you guys
never went to LEGO.com....
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Brad,
In a word-'Thanks'. It's just this sort of validation that we AFOLs have
been looking for. Congrats again to Dan and Lego Direct. I'll be buying my first
castle set in close to 20 years very shortly.
-Dave
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Just plain great!
This IS the way to go. My only dislike is that this set will not be sold on
stores - it could be a "bait" for the kids, making their interest in LEGO
grow again to pre '96 levels. Why not try stores, call it a "test" or so...
I am sure the set would sell great!
Fine set, you do have a taste at LEGO.
Pedro
(very pleased with the news! Ok, not *too fresh*, but anyway... :-)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Pedro Silva writes:
> Just plain great!
> This IS the way to go. My only dislike is that this set will not be sold on
> stores - it could be a "bait" for the kids, making their interest in LEGO
> grow again to pre '96 levels. Why not try stores, call it a "test" or so...
> I am sure the set would sell great!
> Fine set, you do have a taste at LEGO.
>
> Pedro
> (very pleased with the news! Ok, not *too fresh*, but anyway... :-)
Pedro,
This is just a guess based on my own experience dealing with distributors....
I think the reason the price is so great (only $40.00) is because these
won't be available in the stores! Retail chains and and distribution add
*huge* margins onto products. Lego probably only sees 1/3 of the overall
profit when a set is sold in the stores. On the otherhand, Lego will see
100% of the profit for the Blacksmith shop because no retail chain will be
dipping their greedy fingers into the pot. If this was offered in the
stores it would probably be priced around $60.00......
The price has to be the same from Lego Direct as the stores, otherwise the
stores would quick selling Lego. It's every companies dilema with online
sales. If done correctly, online sales make selling much less expensive.
How to pass these savings on to the consumer is the problem. Lego is doing
a very, very smart thing by selling this only online....
-Aaron
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Brad Justus writes:
> LEGO Direct is extremely pleased to announce the launch of the
> "My Own Creation" series, which features original designs by LEGO
> enthusiasts. The first set to be released in the MOC series is the
> Blacksmith Shop with an original design by Dan Siskind...
> Members of our team do look constantly at what's being created
> by you (we peruse Brickshelf, the Guild of Bricksmiths sites...
You can imagine how hard it was for us not to share this news
outside the Guild - It's great that TLC has finally announced it.
I just stopped by LUGNet to see what more had been said about
the Blacksmith Shop and the most recent posted message was
Brad's. Too cool - Especially with this basically being the
second anniversary of the Guild of Bricksmiths.
> ...We'll be giving this product lots of support -- it's on the
> back cover of the January 2002 LEGO Shop At Home catalog...
Wow! Don't know that I can speak for the rest of the gang, but
this is like an early Christmas present. (The honour - vicariously.)
If it was up to me, I'd give a big boost to the Technic line by making
the next MOC kit Jennifer's bobcat. IMO there's few Technic kits
that not only work/function well, but also _look_ good. Set 8459/8464
comes to mind as the best (in that regard) from TLC - again IMO.
Not to take anything away from Dan of course - this is his day.
It's an honour he well deserves. Merry Christmas everyone. 8-)
SRC
LUGNet#765
http://amicusgroupinc.com/SRC/
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Steve Chapple writes:
> If it was up to me, I'd give a big boost to the Technic line by making
> the next MOC kit Jennifer's bobcat.
I'll definitely second that!
- David
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, Brad Justus writes:
Allan Bedford Disclaimer: Due to the significantly positive nature of this
announcement, my response will be all thumbs up. Constructive criticism
will wait for further follow-ups. ;)
> LEGO Direct is extremely pleased to announce the launch of the "My Own
> Creation" series, which features original designs by LEGO enthusiasts. The
> first set to be released in the MOC series is the Blacksmith Shop with an
> original design by Dan Siskind.
A big step for LEGO Direct, a giant leap for the LEGO company. This is a
very special event and something not unlike some of the suggestions that
have been made on LUGNET. Is someone out there listening? :)
> The Blacksmith Shop is, to our knowledge, the first LEGO set ever released
> by LEGO that was *not* designed in-house by our designers. If anything,
> we're more excited about this series than anything LEGO Direct has offered
> to date -- the MOC sets really show off what *anyone* can do with LEGO if he
> (or she) puts his (or her) imagination to work. And isn't that the truest
> expression of the LEGO brand?
It is... it is... it is... Have you passed along these comments to the
mother ship? The interesting thing is that LEGO Direct is beginning to set
trends that harken back to the good old days. When this branch of the
company goes public, please be sure to make us aware of the IPO date so that
I can buy some shares. This sort of activity really needs to be encouraged
and supported.
> LEGO is all about what *you* can imagine and
> create -- and not necessarily what our designers can dream up. We know that
> you and other enthusiasts (of all ages, because believe me, kids are doing
> some amazing stuff too!) have built some incredible creations; we want to
> help share that creativity with as many other LEGO enthusiasts as we can --
> because by sharing, we share what makes LEGO great. So that's why we
> launched the MOC series.
Now you've called it a 'series', can we hold you to that? :)
> Obviously, the biggest question on everyone's mind is how the designs for
> the series are (or will be) selected. Let me state up front that we will
> *not* accept unsolicited designs (this isn't anything new -- we've never
> accepted such submissions). We're proactively selecting the designs that we
> will use. (As Dan noted in his post, we contacted him.) So please, please,
> please, don't send us pictures or boxes full of your creations unless we ask
> you for them
Brad, I think you were smart to clarify this right up front. Thank you.
I think my only comment here would be to say that whatever you do, I hope
you make it fair for everyone and that anyone who has a good model
potentially has a chance of having it chosen.
> -- for legal reasons, we must return unsolicited design
> contributions to you. (You can imagine that I've got the company attorneys
> nervous enough just licensing outside designs to begin with!)
Tell the attorneys that you are doing the "work of the brick" and that they
should loosen their ties.
What makes me laugh is that if they didn't like this licensing deal, then
how much valium did it take to get them to approve the Star Wars and Harry
Potter deals?
> Members of our team do look constantly at what's being created by you (we
> peruse Brickshelf, the Guild of Bricksmiths sites, personal home pages; we
> keep an eye out at various events, LEGO Club, and LUG gatherings; we get
> recommendations from other enthusiasts -- and that's just a little of what
> we do). We know there are thousands of great creations out there -- but
> we're just getting started with this, so give us some time.
It's so nice to hear confirmation that LEGO sites on the web (not just
LUGNET) are sources of information for the company. I think this probably
gives a sense of worth to some smaller sites/pages that post quality models
and/or other information but may feel overshadowed by the almighty LUGNET.
> We will probably
> take many different paths with the selection process: we may have a contest
> around a specific theme; we may select an existing design; we may commission
> an entirely new design. Anything is possible. And yes, we are compensating
> the creators for their designs (in order for us to produce a set as an
> "official" LEGO set, we must own all rights to the design).
>
> We hope to make the MOC series an ongoing one, but -- as with so many of the
> initiatives we have launched in the last year (sculptures, trains, Legends)
> -- we've never done anything like this before, so we'll have to see what
> happens once this hits the market. (I'm not particularly worried, though;
> let's just say that there's absolutely no question anymore about whether the
> sculptures, trains, and Legends were good ideas! I see no reason that the
> MOC series will not perform equally well.) We'll be giving this product lots
> of support -- it's on the back cover of the January 2002 LEGO Shop At Home
> catalog (due in a couple of weeks), and we'll be giving it prominent play on
> LEGO.com as well.
Since I'm sure I've been removed from the mailing list (for all the comments
made in my Fast Company article about the summer catalog) perhaps some kind
soul will agree to share their copy with me. :)
> (You may ask -- at least I know Allan Bedford will! -- why we aren't posting
> this announcement on LEGO.com.
<HUMBLE MODE ON>
Imagine my surprise at seeing my name mentioned. I hope I haven't become
too much of a pain. :)
I just want to drift off-topic for a moment to state something. I've said
this before in various places, but it's worth repeating. Any and all
comments/criticism/suggestions/rants etc. that I make are always directed
towards the company and its business practices; they are never personal and
are not directed at any individuals within the organization. My reason for
making them remains the same now as when I first began posting to
rec.toys.LEGO... I feel that the company has strayed from the path of the
bricks. However, my optimism that things will get better never ceases.
</HUMBLE MODE OFF>
> The answer is that traditionally, we
> "prelaunch" many of our themes for the next year in mid- to late December
> --for example, the new Alpha Team, Soccer, and Racers sets are in the online
> shop right now; Harry Potter and Star Wars are coming next week. But
> *marketing* of the new products doesn't actually take place until the New
> Year begins. We want to keep our marketing focus on the current year's
> products through Christmas, and then turn to the new themes. But that
> doesn't mean that we can't sneak some products out early....)
Brad, just let me say this...
I cannot and will not argue with your explanation. For two reasons:
1) It makes sense. It's a practice the company has decided upon and you are
not the only business that puts a moritorium on changes just before the new
year.
2) You took the time to provide an explanation which answered a
question/concern that was posted as a reply to one of your announcements.
Anyone who has read any of my recent postings will know immediately that
this has been a real thorn in my side. Thanks Brad for addressing it.
(Completely silly side note: Is it really just co-incidence that an
announcement was again made on a Friday? Have I been watching too many
X-Files reruns?) ;)
> The Blacksmith Shop will be sold exclusively through LEGO Shop At Home in all
> LEGO Shop At Home markets. It is available for preorder on LEGO.com now --
> it is listed under "Hard to Find" in the Shop At Home Exclusives category,
> but we will soon be adding it to the Castle category as well. The price is
> $39.99 in the US, and will be equivalently priced in other markets.
Even directly converted, that price is only about $65.00 Canadian. And for
so many bricks!!! It does raise questions about the pricing of other sets
but I'll save it, I promised I would. :)
> (I'll post in the next few days regarding some other issues raised recently
> here. We're not ignoring anything anyone has said, but please bear in mind
> that this is absolutely our craziest time of the year so it's more difficult
> to get the time to respond than usual. Thanks in advance for your patience.)
As someone who has practically 'demanded' information and answers, please
let me say that I do have a deep appreciation for the craziness associated
with this time of the year. I spent more than a decade in the trenches of
retail sales and have seen the frenzy associated with holiday shopping first
hand. I also know that the suppliers and manufacturers feel the same
pressure, trying to get the right amount of the right products into stores
at the right time. Which unfortunately is sometimes why I ride you guys so
hard... I've seen the way other companies do it and I guess I always like to
think there is a better way.
Take a deep breath folks, only 2 weeks and it'll all be over. :)
> As always, Play Well. Best wishes for a happy holiday from all of us at
> LEGO. And may Santa leave many bricks beneath your tree.
May Santa deliver lots of orders for the first set in your My Own Creation
series. Again, congratulations and well done on a big step forward.
All the best,
Allan B.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Allan Bedford writes:
> Even directly converted, that price is only about $65.00 Canadian. And for
> so many bricks!!! It does raise questions about the pricing of other sets
> but I'll save it, I promised I would. :)
I tried it with the shipping and taxes before converting it, and it's about $80
total. But still great for over 600 pieces, this set is larger (piece count)
than the Night Lord's Castle that I bought for about $85 last year. The
Blacksmith shop will be my first S@H purcahse since shipping charges and
American dollars were introduced.
(Thanks for including the Queen Leonora mini-figure!)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Bradley Dale writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Allan Bedford writes:
>
> > Even directly converted, that price is only about $65.00 Canadian. And for
> > so many bricks!!! It does raise questions about the pricing of other sets
> > but I'll save it, I promised I would. :)
>
> I tried it with the shipping and taxes before converting it,
> and it's about $80 total.
Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was really only referring to the
price of the product itself (excluding shipping/taxes/duty etc.). Plus, I
did the calculation in my head, so it's probably not that accurate. :)
Really too bad that this can't be ordered from the Canadian Shop at Home.
Really too bad that the Canadian Shop at Home doesn't exist any more.
Really too bad that LEGO Canada doesn't exist any more.
Regards,
Allan B.
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In lugnet.loc.ca, Allan Bedford writes:
> Really too bad that this can't be ordered from the Canadian Shop at Home.
> Really too bad that the Canadian Shop at Home doesn't exist any more.
> Really too bad that LEGO Canada doesn't exist any more.
Indeed, we all feel the same way!
Perhaps one day, if revenue increases, LS@H will return to our fair country.
--==Richard==--
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> Allan Bedford Disclaimer: Due to the significantly positive nature of this
> announcement, my response will be all thumbs up. Constructive criticism
> will wait for further follow-ups. ;)
I'll wait also :-)
Way to go Guild! :-)
>
> > (You may ask -- at least I know Allan Bedford will! -- why we aren't posting
> > this announcement on LEGO.com.
>
> <HUMBLE MODE ON>
>
> Imagine my surprise at seeing my name mentioned. I hope I haven't become
> too much of a pain. :)
>
> I just want to drift off-topic for a moment to state something. I've said
> this before in various places, but it's worth repeating. Any and all
> comments/criticism/suggestions/rants etc. that I make are always directed
> towards the company and its business practices; they are never personal and
> are not directed at any individuals within the organization. My reason for
> making them remains the same now as when I first began posting to
> rec.toys.LEGO... I feel that the company has strayed from the path of the
> bricks. However, my optimism that things will get better never ceases.
>
> </HUMBLE MODE OFF>
Thats good, Allan gets the burned and I come away clean! ;)
But really Allan's not alone I helped start this topic on gray bricks and I
hope your Answers and solutions are good, Brad?....But again no negative
stuff Today.
>
> > (I'll post in the next few days regarding some other issues raised recently
> > here. We're not ignoring anything anyone has said, but please bear in mind
> > that this is absolutely our craziest time of the year so it's more difficult
> > to get the time to respond than usual. Thanks in advance for your patience.)
Thats Really good to hear, Brad. I am looking forward to your comments and
solutions, I hope they will solve or Gray Brick problem?
Remember, Discounts on large orders (1000 or more), Tiles, Plates, 1x3, 1x1,
Slopes, 2x2x3 Extreme Corner slopes (rare one only one set has it), and bulk
arches, all these items in light gray would be wonderful! I hope you have
good news for us or why this cannot be done?
Doyle Nelson
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Doyle Nelson writes:
> bulk arches, all these items in light gray would be wonderful! I hope you have
> good news for us or why this cannot be done?
>
> Doyle Nelson
As far as arches are concerned, we already have set #3732 - which isn't all
that shabby, no?
-- Pawel
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Not a bad set, no. But I would love it if they lost the blue peak and
added some 1 x 6 x 1 arches instead, and maybe some 1 x 3 x 1 arches
too. And then made those available in lots of other colors.
-Andy Lynch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pawel Nazarewicz" <verneer@utk.edu>
To: <lugnet.lego.direct@lugnet.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2001 10:42 AM
Subject: Re: announcing the "My Own Creation" series and reply to Brad
about Gray bricks
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Doyle Nelson writes:
> > bulk arches, all these items in light gray would be wonderful! I hope • you have
> > good news for us or why this cannot be done?
> >
> > Doyle Nelson
>
> As far as arches are concerned, we already have set #3732 - which • isn't all
> that shabby, no?
>
> -- Pawel
>
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Pawel Nazarewicz writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Doyle Nelson writes:
> > bulk arches, all these items in light gray would be wonderful! I hope you have
> > good news for us or why this cannot be done?
> >
> > Doyle Nelson
>
> As far as arches are concerned, we already have set #3732 - which isn't all
> that shabby, no?
>
> -- Pawel
Yah it is shabby! very few arches for the price and plus it would be nice to
buy 100 or 50 1x3 or 1x4 arches at a time.
The arch pack was a cheap attempt to get some over priced cash!
Doyle
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Doyle Nelson writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Pawel Nazarewicz writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Doyle Nelson writes:
> > > bulk arches, all these items in light gray would be wonderful! I hope you have
> > > good news for us or why this cannot be done?
> > >
> > > Doyle Nelson
> >
> > As far as arches are concerned, we already have set #3732 - which isn't all
> > that shabby, no?
> >
> > -- Pawel
>
> Yah it is shabby! very few arches for the price and plus it would be nice to
> buy 100 or 50 1x3 or 1x4 arches at a time.
>
> The arch pack was a cheap attempt to get some over priced cash!
I think I have to agree with that sentiment. Unless you need only a few
arches, the service pack is rather week for building. To do any REAL
building, you need REAL bulk.
I think Brad said he would try to clarify the situation, but being the
Christmas season, and the change over in the lego line-up for 2002, he might
be quite busy to reply to everything.....
Benjamin Medinets
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lol, I went there not even 10 mins before it showed up! I loged on at my
mom's to see is #3033 was available online. Then went to my dad's house
(took me 2 mins), logged on & ran across a post on Brickbay, about this...
Then i looked & there it was!
Josh
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This is absolutely wonderful. Congrats to Dan!!! And congrats to LEGO Direct!
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> So that's why we launched the MOC series.
This is the best anouncement I have seen from LD. This will make everyone
happy (even the lunatic fringe that didn't want re-issued sets.) I will
definately be ordering two of those after Christmas. (And I am mostly a space
builder!)
> (I'll post in the next few days regarding some other issues raised recently
> here. We're not ignoring anything anyone has said, but please bear in mind
> that this is absolutely our craziest time of the year so it's more difficult
> to get the time to respond than usual. Thanks in advance for your patience.)
Well this should be very interesting to read. Patience is a virtue all Lego
fans have no doubt.
> As always, Play Well. Best wishes for a happy holiday from all of us at
> LEGO. And may Santa leave many bricks beneath your tree.
Well hopefully I will be getting a Metroliner and Club Car. :-)
-Mike Petrucelli
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This is awesome! I saw "the other" post last night, and I must have said
"That is so freaking cool!" about 15 times. My poor girlfriend is sick of
hearing the phrase "only $40" now I think. Too bad I have to wait till
after Christmas to order anything for myself (just a rule we have here).
This does pose a problem for me though... I was waiting until after
Christmas to order another 3 or 4 Guarded Inn's (I picked one up as soon as
it was re-released, I've wanted that set since I saw it in the Shop at Home
catelog many years ago, I even circled it, but never got to order it back
then :( ), but now this? What do I do with my money now!? 2 Blacksmith's
shops and 1 more Guarded Inn? 1 Blacksmith shop and 2 Guarded Inns? I'm so
confused! And I wanted to throw a couple packs of Cypress Trees on top of
that (how tall are those things anyway, I don't think I own a single one).
Oh my, I can't wait till I move, it'll be a year, but when I move we're
going somewhere where I can have a whole room for my toys, which means LOTS
of room for LEGO! And with all the bulk Green and Brown bricks available,
that means lots of bulk ordering (sorry it's still a year away for me, I
hope everything's still there then!) And with sets like the new Blacksmith
Shop (when I saw the title of the announcement I immediately thought of the
'84 Blacksmith Shop, this is just a tad more exciting :) ) available, I
think I know where my future paychecks are going, Mwahahaha!
Go LS@H! I've only ordered once before, but I see a beautiful future :)
Brett Kingery
p.s. - So, how long until Bulk Dark Green Plates? And Palm Trees? :)
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Brad:
You haven't asked for suggestions but I think a REALLY obvious suggestion
would be the Spamcake Diner as the next in line for this MOC series.
Frankly, I'd be surprised and disappointed if it weren't already in the works...
Besides being a treasure for food printed tiles, it could be enhanced with
other food items like chicken, suasages, apples, loaves of bread, cherries,
popsicles, etc. It should also come with a t-shirt iron-on and a full-sized
pretend menu. I think this was originally designed for a train layout, but
it could easily be thought of as a town item. It's just very funny and has
a great community spirit behind it.
I don't know all the details, just throwing it out there.
-- Hop-Frog (macaroni whore)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> Brad:
>
> You haven't asked for suggestions but I think a REALLY obvious suggestion
> would be the Spamcake Diner as the next in line for this MOC series.
> Frankly, I'd be surprised and disappointed if it weren't already in the works...
>
> Besides being a treasure for food printed tiles, it could be enhanced with
> other food items like chicken, suasages, apples, loaves of bread, cherries,
> popsicles, etc. It should also come with a t-shirt iron-on and a full-sized
> pretend menu. I think this was originally designed for a train layout, but
> it could easily be thought of as a town item. It's just very funny and has
> a great community spirit behind it.
>
> I don't know all the details, just throwing it out there.
>
> -- Hop-Frog (macaroni whore)
No, don't license the Spamckae to LD. We won't be able to use it ourself.
Most of my spaceships would have to swap engines, as their Spamcake-driven
ones would be illegal then.
But seriuosly, it would make a great set!
Mark -what's that? another exploding Spamcake fuelcell?- de Kock
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Mark de Kock writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > Brad:
> >
> > You haven't asked for suggestions but I think a REALLY obvious suggestion
> > would be the Spamcake Diner as the next in line for this MOC series.
> > Frankly, I'd be surprised and disappointed if it weren't already in the works...
> >
> > Besides being a treasure for food printed tiles, it could be enhanced with
> > other food items like chicken, suasages, apples, loaves of bread, cherries,
> > popsicles, etc. It should also come with a t-shirt iron-on and a full-sized
> > pretend menu. I think this was originally designed for a train layout, but
> > it could easily be thought of as a town item. It's just very funny and has
> > a great community spirit behind it.
> >
> > I don't know all the details, just throwing it out there.
> >
> > -- Hop-Frog (macaroni whore)
>
> No, don't license the Spamckae to LD. We won't be able to use it ourself.
> Most of my spaceships would have to swap engines, as their Spamcake-driven
> ones would be illegal then.
Well, spamcake can be licensed AND you can end up winning: all you'd have to
do was to replace the current generators with the ones working with
anti-spamcake - GAMH has been working on them for a while now. For what I've
understood, once they are made stable they will become a much more powerful
source of energy.
The advantage is the smaller size of the new reactors, which allow for more
pay-load or living quarters.
Pedro
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"Markassius" <mark.de.kock@NOSPAM.home.nl> wrote in message
news:GoGBrK.12G@lugnet.com...
> No, don't license the Spamckae to LD. We won't be able to use it ourself.
> Most of my spaceships would have to swap engines, as their Spamcake-driven
> ones would be illegal then.
> But seriuosly, it would make a great set!
> Mark -what's that? another exploding Spamcake fuelcell?- de Kock
You bring up a good point. I agree with you here.
Thanks to Tom McDonald, Spamcake is now a community icon. I appreciate all
LEGO Direct is doing to 'reach out' to us in the community by offering the
products we want - and now even products made by community members - but, I
hope Spamcake remains off-limits.
I do not want to have to put disclaimers on references to Spamcake, and I
don't want lawyers after me if I choose to display a spamcake logo anywhere.
I'd rather take issues of my use of the Spamcake name and logo up with my
good friend Tom, who will most likely tell me its fine, and politely ask for
a reference back to his pages.
I like what I see when LEGO Direct and the community work together, and I'm
not trying to poo-poo enthusiasm. But taking a look at the way something
like the licensing of Spamcake would effect the freedom of the community
members (and especially the creator) to continue building on the Spamcake
name and idea, its something I feel is best left untouched by LEGO and in
the hands of the community.
-Tim
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes:
<<snippetysnip some thoughts that I share with Tim>>
> ... Spamcake...I feel is best left untouched by LEGO and in
> the hands of the community.
>
> -Tim
Well, I feel that Spamcake is best left untouched..period! Everybody knows
the dangers of handling Spamcake with remote controlled Mecha, watching from
a vast distance (preferably from orbit, around another sun). So the thought
of touching the actual stuff sends warningsignals through my spine.
Mark -who wishes he knew how to set follow-ups to on-topic.fun.spamcake- de Kock
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tim Courtney writes:
(snip)
>
> Thanks to Tom McDonald, Spamcake is now a community icon. I appreciate all
> LEGO Direct is doing to 'reach out' to us in the community by offering the
> products we want - and now even products made by community members - but, I
> hope Spamcake remains off-limits.
(snip)
Does this mean I'll get crap if I have a the crew frying up a couple of slices
on the radiator of the M10 Tank Destoryer kit I'm releasing next year?
Dan
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> Brad:
>
> You haven't asked for suggestions but I think a REALLY obvious suggestion
> would be the Spamcake Diner as the next in line for this MOC series.
> Frankly, I'd be surprised and disappointed if it weren't already in the works...
I think that there could be serious trademark issues over the usuage of the word
"spam"-- that is already a trademark of Hormel. If the TLC lawyers were nervous
about licensing AFOL designs, they'd croak at this, HF;-)
>
> Besides being a treasure for food printed tiles, it could be enhanced with
> other food items like chicken, suasages, apples, loaves of bread, cherries,
> popsicles, etc. It should also come with a t-shirt iron-on and a full-sized
> pretend menu. I think this was originally designed for a train layout, but
> it could easily be thought of as a town item. It's just very funny and has
> a great community spirit behind it.
It's kind of an inside joke, don't you think? Not many are privy to the
etiology of the term "spamcake" But as for T-shirts.....;-)
-John
>
> I don't know all the details, just throwing it out there.
>
> -- Hop-Frog (macaroni whore)
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, John Neal writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Richard Marchetti writes:
> > Brad:
> >
> > You haven't asked for suggestions but I think a REALLY obvious suggestion
> > would be the Spamcake Diner as the next in line for this MOC series.
> > Frankly, I'd be surprised and disappointed if it weren't already in the works...
> > Besides being a treasure for food printed tiles, it could be enhanced with
> > other food items like chicken, suasages, apples, loaves of bread, cherries,
> > popsicles, etc. It should also come with a t-shirt iron-on and a full-sized
> > pretend menu. I think this was originally designed for a train layout, but
> > it could easily be thought of as a town item. It's just very funny and has
> > a great community spirit behind it.
>
> It's kind of an inside joke, don't you think? Not many are privy to the
> etiology of the term "spamcake" But as for T-shirts.....;-)
Perhaps someone could enlighten the unenlightened.
Signed,
One of the unenlightened
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Allan Bedford writes:
> > It's kind of an inside joke, don't you think? Not many are privy to the
> > etiology of the term "spamcake" But as for T-shirts.....;-)
>
> Perhaps someone could enlighten the unenlightened.
Fer goshsakes, use the "Lugnet Search" and you'll get plenty of Spamcake.
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> In lugnet.off-topic.fun, Erik Olson writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Allan Bedford writes:
>
>
> > > It's kind of an inside joke, don't you think? Not many are privy to the
> > > etiology of the term "spamcake" But as for T-shirts.....;-)
> >
> > Perhaps someone could enlighten the unenlightened.
>
> Fer goshsakes, use the "Lugnet Search" and you'll get plenty of Spamcake.
Well dagnabbit I will. :)
A search returns about 1100 entries on LUGNET newsgroups. For those not yet
in the know, but who don't have time to scan all 1100, I think this looks
like the thing they're talking about:
http://www.baylug.org/titan/spamcake/spamcakediner.htm
Great model.
Even if LEGO didn't put out this exact set, I think an old-style diner would
be a great addition to any Town.
Regards,
Allan B.
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Awright!
Here's another one (I don't pretend to know them all)
First test of the Spamcake drive in a Spiffcraft:
http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=5174
Then there is Gungan Spamcake:
http://news.lugnet.com/space/?n=8601
That one was kind of gross.
-Erik
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Brad Justus writes:
(snipperoo)
> Members of our team do look constantly at what's being created by you (we
> peruse Brickshelf, the Guild of Bricksmiths sites, personal home pages; we
> keep an eye out at various events, LEGO Club, and LUG gatherings; we get
> recommendations from other enthusiasts -- and that's just a little of what
> we do).
*ahem* Classic Space MOC's, anyone?
http://www.umop.com/spacefun.htm
This is terrific news...can't wait to see what my peers come up with. Maybe
I'll get to buy Bram's 6888 after all. :-)
--Dave (jot and jab)
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I'm praying they do some of the 8 wide cars of Brams!
Gary
Dave Lovelace <dave@umop.com> wrote in message news:GoHvEv.FMs@lugnet.com...
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Brad Justus writes:
> (snipperoo)
> > Members of our team do look constantly at what's being created by you (we
> > peruse Brickshelf, the Guild of Bricksmiths sites, personal home pages; • we
> > keep an eye out at various events, LEGO Club, and LUG gatherings; we get
> > recommendations from other enthusiasts -- and that's just a little of • what
> > we do).
>
> *ahem* Classic Space MOC's, anyone?
>
> http://www.umop.com/spacefun.htm
>
> This is terrific news...can't wait to see what my peers come up with. • Maybe
> I'll get to buy Bram's 6888 after all. :-)
>
> --Dave (jot and jab)
>
> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Dave Lovelace writes:
> This is terrific news...can't wait to see what my peers come up with.
> Maybe I'll get to buy Bram's 6888 after all. :-)
Which one? :)
http://lego.bldesign.org/models/gallery/?n=22&i=box-1024x768.jpg
http://lego.bldesign.org/models/gallery/?n=6&i=6888-01.jpg
Seriously, I doubt you'd see either one. The first is too difficult to build,
and the second requires too many discontinued parts. In fact, it doesn't look
like I have many designs at all that would make reasonable sets. Some possible
options:
http://lego.bldesign.org/models/?n=57
And maybe some of the 4 wides here:
http://lego.bldesign.org/?menu=land
How disappointing...
Anyway, on a sort of related note...I might attempt to LDraw my Diablo over
winter break.
--Bram
Bram Lambrecht
bram@cwru.edu
www.bldesign.org
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