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Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
Take a look:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
colors with our current names.
:)
Dan and Jennifer Boger
Peeron.com
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> colors with our current names.
>
> :)
>
> Dan and Jennifer Boger
> Peeron.com
Awesome! Thanks so much!
- Gary
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Oh my goodness! Are there really that many colors of LEGO?!
Great to see some TLC collaboration. Something I wish there was a lot more of.
Great work, keep it up!! :-)
~Mike
At 06:37 PM 8/30/2003 +0000, you wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> colors with our current names.
>
> :)
>
> Dan and Jennifer Boger
> Peeron.com
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> colors with our current names.
>
> :)
>
> Dan and Jennifer Boger
> Peeron.com
Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd scala,
belville and HP colors ?
Ray
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> scala, belville and HP colors ?
We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
we find out, we'll let you know :)
Dan
--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > scala, belville and HP colors ?
>
> We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> we find out, we'll let you know :)
>
> Dan
After staring at this list for a while, I think it will be a sea change to use
some of these names. For example: color #25 is called 'Earth Orange'. To my eye,
this looks much darker than the color of a Kaadu (which we have called earth
orange, for lack of more official naming). I am *very* happy to see something
that we can depend on for consistancy, but I see a very real need for a 'Rosetta
stone' to help up transition from the old names (various color naming systems)
to this set.
Ray
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On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 09:25:38PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> After staring at this list for a while, I think it will be a sea
> change to use some of these names. For example: color #25 is called
> 'Earth Orange'. To my eye, this looks much darker than the color of a
> Kaadu (which we have called earth orange, for lack of more official
> naming). I am *very* happy to see something that we can depend on for
> consistancy, but I see a very real need for a 'Rosetta stone' to help
> up transition from the old names (various color naming systems) to
> this set.
The way I see it, we probably will never switch to calling colors by
their LEGO names - some, like 'Lig. Yellowich Orange' just don't work
for me :) It would be nice to correlate the names we use to the entries
in the table. For that matter, it would be nice to be able to have a
comprehensive chart, that includes all the known naming conventions. The
best bit of data I see getting from LEGO's chart is just the RGB/Pantone
values for the colors. Those we could use, especially in LDraw/POV
applications.
Dan
--
Dan Boger
dan@peeron.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> The way I see it, we probably will never switch to calling colors by
> their LEGO names - some, like 'Lig. Yellowich Orange' just don't work
> for me :) It would be nice to correlate the names we use to the entries
> in the table. For that matter, it would be nice to be able to have a
> comprehensive chart, that includes all the known naming conventions. The
> best bit of data I see getting from LEGO's chart is just the RGB/Pantone
> values for the colors. Those we could use, especially in LDraw/POV
> applications.
>
> Dan
With respect to the RGB and the CMYK numbers... I did a bit of quick reading
about the two color specification models. If I understood it correctly, RGB is
more oriented towards monitor displays, while CMYK (subtractive) is intended to
specify more accurately imaging on a medium (such as paper, etc). Are the CMYK
numbers given for printing those colors ?
Ray
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Ray Sanders wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> > The way I see it, we probably will never switch to calling colors by
> > their LEGO names - some, like 'Lig. Yellowich Orange' just don't work
> > for me :) It would be nice to correlate the names we use to the entries
> > in the table. For that matter, it would be nice to be able to have a
> > comprehensive chart, that includes all the known naming conventions. The
> > best bit of data I see getting from LEGO's chart is just the RGB/Pantone
> > values for the colors. Those we could use, especially in LDraw/POV
> > applications.
> >
> > Dan
>
> With respect to the RGB and the CMYK numbers... I did a bit of quick reading
> about the two color specification models. If I understood it correctly, RGB is
> more oriented towards monitor displays, while CMYK (subtractive) is intended to
> specify more accurately imaging on a medium (such as paper, etc). Are the CMYK
> numbers given for printing those colors ?
Ray-
I asked about this and got a sort of vague responce:
The CMYK is given to tell people what the CMYK value is.
If you want to print with it because it is better for printing, then use that.
The values listed are for color the actual plastic.
The point is that the colors are given in a variety of formats for a variety of
purposes... up to the user to choose which one to use.
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> I asked about this and got a sort of vague responce:
>
> The CMYK is given to tell people what the CMYK value is.
> If you want to print with it because it is better for printing, then use >that.
It should be, since most modern printers use cyan, magenta, and yellow ink
for color printing (I'm guessing "K" is for "blacK"?). In working with light,
the primaries are red, blue, and green, and the secondaries are cyan, magenta,
and _amber_ (a bit on the orangy side). It makes sense that they'd want to have
seperate color values for printing, given their fondness for printing color
instruction manuals.
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(I'm guessing "K" is for "blacK"?).
"K" stands for Key, but why black is called key I don't know, you'd have to ask
a printer (Person not a machine!)
Tim
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Jennifer L. Boger wrote:
> I asked about this and got a sort of vague responce:
>
> The CMYK is given to tell people what the CMYK value is.
> If you want to print with it because it is better for printing, then use that.
> The values listed are for color the actual plastic.
> The point is that the colors are given in a variety of formats for a variety of
> purposes... up to the user to choose which one to use.
The way to test this is to do the translation between CMYK and RGB. If the
numbers in the table convert more or less exactly, then we know it's just a
simple translation. If they don't match, then it's likely the CMYK values have
been ajusted for printing.
Unfortunately I don't have a good enough graphics program available to test this
out myself. The few I have only have RGB and HSV.
Derek
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> The way I see it, we probably will never switch to calling colors by
> their LEGO names - some, like 'Lig. Yellowich Orange' just don't work
> for me :)
What's wrong with it? "Lig." is an abbreviation for "light" (not the one
we're used to, but...), "yellowich" is only one letter different from
"yellowish"...ah, you must object to their use of the strange foreign word
"orange", right? ;P
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In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
> "yellowich" is only one letter different from "yellowish"
On further comparison, "Lig. Yellowich Orange" is the only color that uses
the spelling "yellowich", while every other use is spelled "yellowish". I
propose that the C-spelling is a typo and should be corrected.
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In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
> > "yellowich" is only one letter different from "yellowish"
>
> On further comparison, "Lig. Yellowich Orange" is the only color that uses
> the spelling "yellowich", while every other use is spelled "yellowish". I
> propose that the C-spelling is a typo and should be corrected.
I've no doubt that it's a typo, but that's what they gave us, we didn't want to
touch it just yet :)
Jennifer
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Ray Sanders wrote:
> After staring at this list for a while, I think it will be a sea change to
> use some of these names. For example: color #25 is called 'Earth Orange'. To
> my eye, this looks much darker than the color of a Kaadu (which we have
> called earth orange, for lack of more official naming).
That's because the official Earth Orange color _is_ darker than the Kaadu.
The Kakama mask and feet used on Huki from the Bionicle line (McD's
Matoran/Tohunga set from September 01) are the color officially termed Earth
Orange (as was listed in the official Kanohi list on Bionicle.com). I have no
idea what they call the color used for the Kaadu, but it is considerably
lighter.
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In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > After staring at this list for a while, I think it will be a sea change to
> > use some of these names. For example: color #25 is called 'Earth Orange'. To
> > my eye, this looks much darker than the color of a Kaadu (which we have
> > called earth orange, for lack of more official naming).
>
> That's because the official Earth Orange color _is_ darker than the
> Kaadu. The Kakama mask and feet used on Huki from the Bionicle line (McD's
> Matoran/Tohunga set from September 01) are the color officially termed Earth
> Orange (as was listed in the official Kanohi list on Bionicle.com). I have
> no idea what they call the color used for the Kaadu, but it is considerably
> lighter.
Whoops. I got my "oranges" mixed up there. The official Earth Orange was
actually identified as what we know as brown (tree pieces, Pohatu, wagon
wheels). The official Kanohi checklist used to identify it as this color, but
some of the more unusual color names (like this one) were changed to be less
confusing. Huki is "Dark Orange", and I have no idea what the Kaadu is, but it
is actually lighter than Huki.
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > scala, belville and HP colors ?
>
> We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> we find out, we'll let you know :)
>
> Dan
No, the list is not complete - at BW03 Bill (one of the MasterBuilders) brought
out his color list and let us see it. He even had a color copy of it he handed
out to a few of us. If I recall correctly these are the colors they (the
MasterBuilders) could order, and they were the 2003 colors.
He gave Todd L. the list of names that went with the numbers with the
undersanding Todd would post them, but I do not recall that list ever making it
to the public.
Anyway, I have a pic of the color plate he brought out here:
http://www.landofbricks.com/bl/colors.jpg
You will see the some (maybe all, I did not check each and every one) missing
numbers on the public list are on this example.
It is good to see a list wiggle its way out to the public after all these years.
Kinda funny how we get what we want and say 'ah, ok - well we like our names
better' as I do not see BL using these names either.
Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > > scala, belville and HP colors ?
> >
> > We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> > we find out, we'll let you know :)
> >
> > Dan
>
> No, the list is not complete - at BW03 Bill (one of the MasterBuilders) brought
> out his color list and let us see it. He even had a color copy of it he handed
> out to a few of us. If I recall correctly these are the colors they (the
> MasterBuilders) could order, and they were the 2003 colors.
>
> He gave Todd L. the list of names that went with the numbers with the
> undersanding Todd would post them, but I do not recall that list ever making it
> to the public.
>
> Anyway, I have a pic of the color plate he brought out here:
>
> http://www.landofbricks.com/bl/colors.jpg
>
> You will see the some (maybe all, I did not check each and every one) missing
> numbers on the public list are on this example.
>
> It is good to see a list wiggle its way out to the public after all these years.
> Kinda funny how we get what we want and say 'ah, ok - well we like our names
> better' as I do not see BL using these names either.
>
> Mark P
> http://www.landofbricks.com
I did a comparison of the list from peeron with the color tile swatches from
your photo... The TLC/peeron list has a range of colors above 200 that are not
on the tile swatches. Conversely, the tile swatches are present for the
following numbers that are not on the list: 20, 109, 114, 117, 129, 132, 144 and
156. The TLC list does not mention any glitter colors, but 114, 117, 129 and 132
appear to have glitter. All but 132 may be Clikit colors. 132 (which looks like
black glitter) might be the color used for the SW 7159 buckets. I wonder if all
the other number gaps were once valid colors.
Ray
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snip
> The TLC list does not mention any glitter colors, but 114, 117, 129 and 132
> appear to have glitter. All but 132 may be Clikit colors. 132 (which looks like
> black glitter) might be the color used for the SW 7159 buckets.
> Ray
Possibly the last three in the TLC list are glitter colours, 176 178 and 179,
the 'flip-flop' colours? I'm not certain I think that in paint terms at least
this means colours that change depending on viewing angle
Tim
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> He gave Todd L. the list of names that went with the numbers with the
> undersanding Todd would post them, but I do not recall that list ever making it
> to the public.
I asked him if he had cleared it (his distributing it and/or the public
disclosure of it online) with LEGO IP attorneys and he indicated no.
--Todd
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Todd Lehman wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> > He gave Todd L. the list of names that went with the numbers with the
> > undersanding Todd would post them, but I do not recall that list ever making it
> > to the public.
>
> I asked him if he had cleared it (his distributing it and/or the public
> disclosure of it online) with LEGO IP attorneys and he indicated no.
>
> --Todd
Ah. All I recall was he wanted to give it to somebody who could get it to the
masses. But since a list was made public by Lego I think it would be safe to put
out the list that you have, if you still have it... Do you still have it?
Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > > scala, belville and HP colors ?
> >
> > We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> > we find out, we'll let you know :)
> >
> > Dan
>
> No, the list is not complete - at BW03 Bill (one of the MasterBuilders) brought
> out his color list and let us see it.
>
> Anyway, I have a pic of the color plate he brought out here:
>
> http://www.landofbricks.com/bl/colors.jpg
>
> You will see the some (maybe all, I did not check each and every one) missing
> numbers on the public list are on this example.
Mark,
Is Maersk Blue included in the picture you have above ? If so, which number is
it ?
Ray
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Ray Sanders wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Mark Papenfuss wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > > > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > > > scala, belville and HP colors ?
> > >
> > > We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> > > we find out, we'll let you know :)
> > >
> > > Dan
> >
> > No, the list is not complete - at BW03 Bill (one of the MasterBuilders) brought
> > out his color list and let us see it.
> >
> > Anyway, I have a pic of the color plate he brought out here:
> >
> > http://www.landofbricks.com/bl/colors.jpg
> >
> > You will see the some (maybe all, I did not check each and every one) missing
> > numbers on the public list are on this example.
>
> Mark,
>
> Is Maersk Blue included in the picture you have above ? If so, which number is
> it ?
Not that I recall or can see from the picture. He said that was a list of the
2003 colors that they could order more of, and he said earlier that Maersk was
no longer open for ordering for them.
Hope that helps...
Mark P
http://www.landofbricks.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Dan Boger wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:32:26PM +0000, Ray Sanders wrote:
> > Fantastic ! Is that believed to be complete, even inclusive of the odd
> > scala, belville and HP colors ?
>
> We can't be sure - we've asked that someone look into it for us. Once
> we find out, we'll let you know :)
>
> Dan
Another thought WRT the completeness of this list... I suspect that the colors
listed here are the ABS colors and do not take into account the various non-ABS
colors being used in some of the Bionicle Krana masks. Those masks are using a
different type of plastic (more pliable/flexible) and tend to be metallic or
pearl colors.
Ray
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Wow...that's a lot o' colors...
Neat!
-Stefan-
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with
> RGB, CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
Eesh. As neat as that is to see, the color samples for a lot of them
(especially the red/purple range) look like various shades of puce on my
monitor, and I'm not used to having problems in that color range. It took me
about five minutes to match up just the 14 transparent colors, and I suspect
it's going to be at least ten times harder to match up all of the regular opaque
colors.
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of >these colors with our current names.
Good luck. You're going to need it. I've seen instances of identically
colored parts being listed as either violet or purple, and other parts being
listed as either light blue or medium blue. The inconsistency of color
identification from inventory submissions is going to add in an annoying
challenge. Hopefully, though, this will provide the first step towards better
color matching.
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Quoting Purple Dave <purpledave@maskofdestiny.com>:
> In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> > Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with
> > RGB, CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
> >
> > Take a look:
>
> Eesh. As neat as that is to see, the color samples for a lot of them
> (especially the red/purple range) look like various shades of puce on my
> monitor, and I'm not used to having problems in that color range. It took
> me
> about five minutes to match up just the 14 transparent colors, and I
> suspect
> it's going to be at least ten times harder to match up all of the regular
> opaque
> colors.
>
> > We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of
> > these colors with our current names.
>
> Good luck. You're going to need it. I've seen instances of
> identically
> colored parts being listed as either violet or purple, and other parts
> being
> listed as either light blue or medium blue. The inconsistency of color
> identification from inventory submissions is going to add in an annoying
> challenge. Hopefully, though, this will provide the first step towards
> better
> color matching.
That's the plan. It's very difficult to always match up colors when not
everyone has every color to compare it to. One person may have a lot (or all of
them) but another may only have a few. It's not a problem limited to Peeron as
well, as I've bought parts that were listed as one color that it was clearly not
when it arrived. Colors are always the most difficult IMO, descriptors like
"light" and "dark" and what not tend to be very subjective and relative to one's
collection. :)
Jennifer
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
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Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
Take a look:
http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
colors with our current names.
:)
Dan and Jennifer Boger
Peeron.com
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cool! just for fun, i noticed that Lego # 1, “white” is actually pantone code
“CoolGrey 1 C” and has RGB of 242/243/242, not 255/255/255 of ‘true computer
white’ in paint programs; probably deals with the print or plastic ‘milkiness’
of the color. Also the Lego # 40 “Transparent” is also Pantone “CoolGrey 1 C”,
probably also for print reasons, but from what I’d read about the Pantone
company/colors, I’d have thought their description would be more specific.
Oddly, the RGB value for “Transparent” is 236/236/236; Different from the white
(and darker. probably to convey the ‘look’ of light going thru instead of
reflecting), and more specific than the Pantone description. odd, but fun to
look thru .
Jeff
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of >these colors with our current names.
Here's my meager contribution to the cause:
Transparent colors:
40 Transparent
Pretty easy, it's colorless and you can see through it.
41 Tr. Red
Spybotics Snaptrax, Darth Vader's lightsaber blade, Blacktron, etc. (dark
blood red)
42 Tr. Lg blue
Kohrak eyes, Luke apprentice/Anakin lightsaber blades (more of a
trans-cyan, looks like it could be flourescent, but does not glow under
blacklight)
43 Tr. Blue
Spybotics Gigamesh, Futuron (very dark blue)
44 Tr. Yellow
Blacktron, classic Space (traditional yellow)
47 Tr. Flu. Reddish orange
Ice Planet 2002 skis and chainsaws (only transparent orange shade, glows
bright orange under blacklight)
48 Tr. Green
Spybotics Technojaw, Space Police II, Castle dragon flame used for seaweed
fronds (very dark green)
49 Tr. Flu. Green
Luke Jedi lightsaber blade, Blacktron II (glows bright yellowish-green
under blacklight)
111 Tr. Brown
Evidentally what is commonly referred to as "smoke" or "trans-black", since
I can't find any evidence of an actual brown transparent shade, or a listing for
a grey transparent shade (medium grey)
113 Tr. Medi. reddish violet
Spybotics Shadowstrike, "Mace Windu lightsaber blade" from HP sets (looks
close to basic purple)
126 Tr. Bright bluish violet
Swirly-magic 4x radar dish from Dumbledore's Office (looks nearly blue)
143 Tr. Flu. Blue
Kopaka/Nuju eyes and High Flyers mini-cockpit (glows bright blue under
blacklight)
157 Tr. Flu. Yellow
Bionicle Gali/Nokama eyes, Misprint Kaukau (more amber than yellow, glows
bright yellow under blacklight)
158 Tr. Flu. Red
Bionicle Tahu/Vakama eyes (I can't recall ever seeing this color anywhere
else, but it's vaguely pinkish and glows bright white w/ a hint of pink under
blacklight)
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ok, what is "Neon orange" and how does it differ from "Tr. Flu. Reddish
orange"?
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> ok, what is "Neon orange" and how does it differ from "Tr. Flu. Reddish
> orange"?
My guess is that "Neon Orange" is an opaque color, since it does not
include the "Tr." qualifier. I'd also guess that it does not actually glow
under blacklight, as it is listed as "Neon" instead of "Flourescent" (i.e. it's
probably just a really bright orange). I was able to positively identify 14
different transparent colors used between System and Technic (Clikits, I just
realized, uses at least two more transparent shades, as neither the trans-orange
nor trans-pink are glow under blacklight like the Toa eyepieces that are closest
in color), and I was able to find 14 entries that began with the letters "TR"
(including "transparent"), so I'm reasonably certain that there aren't any
others in use for the main lines. The annoying thing is that Tr. Light Blue
looks very similar to Tr. Flu. Blue, and Tr. Flu. Red looks very close to Tr.
Flu. Reddish Orange. The easiest way to identify them (regardless of whether
you have samples of both or not) is to shine a blacklight flourescent tube on
them (don't waste your money on incandescent blacklight bulbs).
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In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
I belive I saw these two come across in 8569 mask packs.
> 157 Tr. Flu. Yellow
> Bionicle Gali/Nokama eyes, Misprint Kaukau (more amber than yellow, glows
> bright yellow under blacklight)
"trans-peach" is what I called this one.
> 158 Tr. Flu. Red
> Bionicle Tahu/Vakama eyes (I can't recall ever seeing this color anywhere
> else, but it's vaguely pinkish and glows bright white w/ a hint of pink under
> blacklight)
"trans-salmon"
BL didn't have names for these colors, so I had to ad-lib.
Ray
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Ray Sanders wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, David Laswell wrote:
>
> I belive I saw these two come across in 8569 mask packs.
8525 (just the eyes) and 8530 (both eyes and the misprint Kaukau), but not
8569. That was just basic Krana and the gold/silver colored Toa Kanohi.
> > 157 Tr. Flu. Yellow
> > Bionicle Gali/Nokama eyes, Misprint Kaukau (more amber than yellow, glows
> > bright yellow under blacklight)
>
> "trans-peach" is what I called this one.
>
> > 158 Tr. Flu. Red
> > Bionicle Tahu/Vakama eyes (I can't recall ever seeing this color anywhere
> > else, but it's vaguely pinkish and glows bright white w/ a hint of pink under
> > blacklight)
>
> "trans-salmon"
>
> BL didn't have names for these colors, so I had to ad-lib.
They both glow very brightly under blacklight, which seems to match up
perfectly with the use of the "Flu." qualifier. Well, unless you start looking
at packaging. Transparent LEGO pieces don't glow under blacklight, but
transparent Bionicle pods do. Anyways, I knew the Tahu eyes were different than
the trans-red Kaukau, but I don't think I really noticed the difference between
the Tr. Yellow and Tr. Flu. Yellow until I built Blacktronicle and combined both
colors in the same model.
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My gusses/matches:
1.white
2.light grey (the standard grey as seen in 1000s of places)
23.blue (the standard blue)
24.yellow (the standard yellow)
26.black
27.dark grey (as in pirate cannon, minifig weapons, 3/4 technic pins and so on)
28.green (as in Octan sets)
102.light blue (as in Life On Mars human sets, designers high-flyers etc)
135.Sand Blue (as in Life On Mars Martian sets, Count Dooku/yoda speeder
set etc)
140.dark blue (as in harry potter knockturn alley, Mini Slave 1 etc)
151.Sand Green (as in statue of liberty, harry potter etc)
153.Sand Red (as seen in Life On Mars martian sets)
154.Dark Red (as seen in e.g. starwars sandpeople, Blockade Runner)
40.Clear (as in town windscreens etc)
41.Trans-Red (as in Space Police 1 for example)
42.Tr-Lt-Blue (as in the windows in a 4560/4561 train)
43.Tr-Blue (as in Futuron, Aquanaut windscreens etc)
44.Tr-Yellow (as in classic space, blacktron I etc)
47.Tr-Fluro-Orange (as in Ice Planet, Aquasharks)
48.Tr-Green (as in space police 2)
49.Tr-Fluro-Green (as in Blacktron II)
50.Glow-In-The-Dark (as in castle ghosts, magic wands)
111.Trans-Smoke (as in Starwars windscreens)
113.Trans-Pink (as in the 2x2 bricks in the hogwarts classrooms set)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> My gusses/matches:
> 50.Glow-In-The-Dark (as in castle ghosts, magic wands)
Huh. Missed that one, but it makes sense, since phosporescence is
basically the ability to glow without electrical input.
> 113.Trans-Pink (as in the 2x2 bricks in the hogwarts classrooms set)
I basically went through all 14 Tr. colors and found legitimate matches for
all of them, but I don't remember a trans-pink. If it glows under blacklight,
it might very well be the same color used for Tahu's eyes. If it is, it's 158
Tr. Flu. Red. If it's not, then the list is missing at least one shade of
transparent plastic that has been used in the System/Technic lines. Regardless,
there are two shades of transparent purple. One is distinctly bluish purple
(swirly-magic 4x radar dish from Dumbledore's Office), and should be 126 Tr.
Bright bluish violet. The other is a very average purple (Spybotics
Shadowstrike and the "Mace Windu" lightsaber blade from the Belville Enchanted
Garden set) and should be 113 Tr. Medi. reddish violet.
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> Bright bluish violet. The other is a very average purple (Spybotics
> Shadowstrike and the "Mace Windu" lightsaber blade from the Belville Enchanted
> Garden set) and should be 113 Tr. Medi. reddish violet.
y guess is that I just think it looks "pink" to me :)
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Brilliant!
111 colors! Guess I'm not complete just yet....
Duq
"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:HKG3r3.1LHJ@lugnet.com...
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with • RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of • these
> colors with our current names.
>
> :)
>
> Dan and Jennifer Boger
> Peeron.com
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Ronald Vallenduuk wrote:
> Brilliant!
> 111 colors! Guess I'm not complete just yet....
>
> Duq
Yeah... and prior to today, my composite list (from 3 other lists: ldraw, peeron
& BL) only had 79 entries. So it looks like the color list just grew by ~40%.
Now we just need to align this against the other lists.
Ray
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> colors with our current names.
>
> :)
>
> Dan and Jennifer Boger
> Peeron.com
I have just finished a program that can be used to map color names and numbers
used between Peeron, Bricklink, LDraw, and Lego. It is called Brick Colors and
can be downloaded at http://www.partscatalog.da.ru
i made this program to help me make the colors.txt map file used by Parts
Catalog and just thought that someone else may find it helpful.
please let me know if you have any features that you think i should add.
bob Kojima
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Bob Kojima wrote:
> In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> > Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> > CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
> >
> > Take a look:
> >
> > http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
> >
> > We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> > colors with our current names.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Dan and Jennifer Boger
> > Peeron.com
>
>
> I have just finished a program that can be used to map color names and numbers
> used between Peeron, Bricklink, LDraw, and Lego. It is called Brick Colors and
> can be downloaded at http://www.partscatalog.da.ru
>
> i made this program to help me make the colors.txt map file used by Parts
> Catalog and just thought that someone else may find it helpful.
>
> please let me know if you have any features that you think i should add.
>
> bob Kojima
Sorry, I just can't find it. Could you give me a direct link?
Thanks,
/Tore
(btw, the file colours.txt is very close to what I have in mind, only that what
I think of should not be limited to 80 colours, it should be stored in the LDraw
BaseDir, and finally I think it should be included in the ldraw.org official
parts update!)
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> (btw, the file colours.txt is very close to what I have in mind, only that what
> I think of should not be limited to 80 colours, it should be stored in the LDraw
> BaseDir, and finally I think it should be included in the ldraw.org official
> parts update!)
This is what the ldconfig.ldr file is. Look for it the LDraw base dir.
-Orion
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> > (btw, the file colours.txt is very close to what I have in mind, only that what
> > I think of should not be limited to 80 colours, it should be stored in the LDraw
> > BaseDir, and finally I think it should be included in the ldraw.org official
> > parts update!)
>
> This is what the ldconfig.ldr file is. Look for it the LDraw base dir.
>
> -Orion
Oh boy, I've never noticed that one! Must be because of its misleading name and
extension. So, what does the A, DR, DG, DB, DA columns stand for? (A is always
= 255, so one can wonder what good it does.)
It should benifit from some more columns, like names and color-numbers for
Peeron and Bricklink. And, with permission from TLC, also LEGO.
What softwares get their data from this file?
/Tore
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> > In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> > > (btw, the file colours.txt is very close to what I have in mind, only that what
> > > I think of should not be limited to 80 colours, it should be stored in the LDraw
> > > BaseDir, and finally I think it should be included in the ldraw.org official
> > > parts update!)
> >
> > This is what the ldconfig.ldr file is. Look for it the LDraw base dir.
> >
> > -Orion
>
> Oh boy, I've never noticed that one! Must be because of its misleading name and
> extension. So, what does the A, DR, DG, DB, DA columns stand for? (A is always
> = 255, so one can wonder what good it does.)
Well the spec is changing so these commands will go away.
We (the LSC) are working to get the spec for the color definitions (the !COLOR
Meta coomand) finalize by the next parts release.
> It should benifit from some more columns, like names and color-numbers for
> Peeron and Bricklink. And, with permission from TLC, also LEGO.
>
> What softwares get their data from this file?
LDView currently uses this file and once we finalize the !COLOR command I think
LDGLite, L3P and MLCad will release updates that use it.
-Orion
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Orion Pobursky wrote:
> > This is what the ldconfig.ldr file is. Look for it the LDraw base dir.
>
> Oh boy, I've never noticed that one! Must be because of its misleading name and
> extension. So, what does the A, DR, DG, DB, DA columns stand for? (A is always
> = 255, so one can wonder what good it does.)
A = alpha (transparency)
DR, DG, DB, DA = dithered RGB,A.
If RGB = D(RGB), then the color is solid. If DA=0, the color is transparent.
Otherwise, the color is dithered and/or translucent.
> It should benifit from some more columns, like names and color-numbers for
> Peeron and Bricklink. And, with permission from TLC, also LEGO.
Actually, that kind of information should be set up in a full-fledged (but small)
database.
Steve
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Steve Bliss wrote:
> In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> > It should benifit from some more columns, like names and color-numbers for
> > Peeron and Bricklink. And, with permission from TLC, also LEGO.
>
> Actually, that kind of information should be set up in a full-fledged (but small)
> database.
>
> Steve
Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. And the database should be text-based,
space-delimited, available offline to all softwares that may need the info - and
udpated regulary. In other words: in the new, improved ldconfig.ldr! :)
/Tore
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In lugnet.cad.dev, Tore Eriksson wrote:
> It should benifit from some more columns, like names and color-numbers for
> Peeron and Bricklink. And, with permission from TLC, also LEGO.
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I'm suggesting. And the database should be text-based,
> space-delimited, available offline to all softwares that may need the info - and
> udpated regulary. In other words: in the new, improved ldconfig.ldr! :)
>
>
> /Tore
Tore,
Is this the kind of output you are looking for?
http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/ClarkCorner/Vintage/ColorTree/ColorCompare/ldconfig.csv
(that link will probably wrap)
That's just some of the info from my Color Tree pages:
http://isodomos.com/VPH/Color
Let me know what you need, or how you need it presented. I'd be glad to help in
any way I can.
HTH,
Clark
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
> Thanks to Jake and TLC, we just posted an official LEGO color chart, with RGB,
> CMYK, and Pantone colors, and a danglish name!
>
> Take a look:
>
> http://www.peeron.com/cgi-bin/invcgis/colorguide.cgi
>
> We will be working in the next few weeks with LDraw to associate each of these
> colors with our current names.
Is it possible that these colors are used for decorative printing of elements
and not exclusively used to identify molded ABS?
-Rob.
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In lugnet.announce, Dan Boger wrote:
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colors with our current names.
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I don’t have a tool or adequate knowledge for this, but I’m guessing someone
else here does.
Recently, TLC has been uploading PDFs to Brickshelf that include color information. Perhaps
some of the
PDFs have resources
(“Colorspace”?) with exact matches (direct or converted) to the RGB or CMYK or
Pantone entries in the colors list?
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