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Re: Air lock and ship docking discussion
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Tue, 29 Feb 2000 03:28:18 GMT
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In lugnet.space, Jon Palmer writes:
   I've been thinking about my ship's air locks and its mechanism for
docking to another vessel that would be too big for its interior bays.
   My ship will have 2 personnel air locks and I know roughly where there
location will be. It will have one docking ring for other ships and again I
know where I want to put it but haven't given a lot of thought on how it
will look or work.
   In an earlier post Pat Justison proposed that we could have a standard
design which could be implemented on different ships or stations. I think
this is a VERY cool idea.

   Well, one single airlock design would be convenient, but somewhat
impractical, not all organizations and countries would agree on a single
docking system.

   In a long thread a while back there was a discussion about the geography
of local space. I believe this was pertaining to the creation of a .space
world and community. It strikes me that Pat's idea would be a great way to
further bind the .space community together in a fairly simple way.
   Now on a minor side note: I have created my ship to exist in its own
Lego space world.. (containing its own history and myths)... but with a bit
of imagination and flexibility I could easily place the same ship and
probably a good deal of its story within another more global .space
community.

   Hmmm... As it has been mentioned before there is no easy way everyone's
space universe could come together as one, so here's my ideas;
   1: First of all, you cannot consider all of space Lego one universe, space
Lego simply describes the future, which should contain many coming time
periods. I propose 2 seperate ones.
   Near future; No FTL travel, thus no contact with alien life, also everything
that occurs, occurs within the Sol system, or maybe even Rigil Kent.
   And then there's the distant future; FTL very common, possible contact with
aliens, Terran life spread throughout the galaxy, ect...
   2: Even if time periods are seperated to better devide technology, we move
into the problem of history. Many people will have different versions of
history, the only way to accomadate them all? Different universes... Parallel
universes that is. All universes in this geography of local space have all
encountered a wormhole, or something to that effect, linking their dimension
with everyone elses.


   Some ideas I'd like to throw out ( I'm rambling so bare with me)

   We have 2 airlock types here (at least I do.)

   The first is a small airlock which would allow access to the outside of
the ship for repairs and such. I suppose this airlock because it does not
really need to connect to anything shouldn't be integral to this discussion.
I could actually after all just have this be part of the docking air lock
and call it a day. The reason I wanted more I think was because I initially
wanted more cool technical stuff on my ship (function seems to follow form
here) but now it strikes me that my crew would need another exit. If they
are currently docked to another ship and need to get outside in a hurry this
seems to be a better alternative then popping off the other ship or
something so they could exit via the docking lock.

   I guess this small airlock would not need to be universal aside from the
fact that all of these would have a mini fig size (on a mini fig scale ship
but I guess this discussion seems to exclude other scales). this brings me
to another idea....

   The Docking mechanism: This is the cool part. What would the size be?
Would it use fairly easy to come by pieces? I would think this would be a
good idea. I don't use ldraw and so I would actually be building this and it
would be cool if others could as well. Unfortunately because I do not use
ldraw I would probably not be the best person to finalize the design. If we
could work out the details and come to an agreement it would be really cool
if someone out there could construct this and post instructions in ldraw for
it on their site. I personally think the idea of interactive construction
like this is cool. And this seems to be a great way to try it out and maybe
add to the creation of a .space world.

   My docking ports come in 2 types, a male and female type. Male docks are
smaller and are usually used on small fighters. Famale docks are bigger, and
are found on larger ships that have the extra room for them. Female ports can
also be used as normal airlocks since they have 2 doors and can open without a
loss of pressure inside the ship. A few images of my docking system can be
found on my website, but there is very little so far. (My site kind of bites,
so visit at your own risk)
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/3969/space.htm   Finally, my docks are
somewhat small, only big enough for a minifig to crawl through, (This should
not be a problem in microgravity, none of my smaller ships have gravity by the
way)

   Last idea that I just thought of. What about other universal connection
types like energy, fuel or data transmission? This could be a fun idea I
think. Imagine seeing somebody's new fighter on a site and seeing a standard
data transfer coupling tucked away on it.

   It would at first seem unnecessary since this could be built into the
airlock itself. But, some may not want to take the time to equalize pressure
between locks just to transfer power or fuel. I am currently working on a small
umbilical, 2 studs wide, 2 2/3 high, about 8 studs long, the whole thing folds
out of the side of the ship with a 4x2x1 hinge (the kind that bends in the
middle) It connects to another umbilical using technic pegs.

-Ed



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(...) I agree, however, the design which elicits the best response from the community in general will more than likely be the most popular and convenient to use. The more popular design would turn into an unofficial standard just by the fact that it (...) (25 years ago, 29-Feb-00, to lugnet.space)
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(...) bites, (...) are I take it you used UFO hull pieces for the ends of the Deep Space Transport.. Interesting idea. Have you seen the designs for the Orion spacecraft? It's a theoretical design using a large circular blastplate for detonating a (...) (25 years ago, 29-Feb-00, to lugnet.space)

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I've been thinking about my ship's air locks and its mechanism for docking to another vessel that would be too big for its interior bays. My ship will have 2 personnel air locks and I know roughly where there location will be. It will have one (...) (25 years ago, 21-Feb-00, to lugnet.space)

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