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  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Thanks for you help Martin. I tried the uart stuff with no change except for this: From further testing I realised that the data that the IR Tower is sending is been recieved by the RCX (woohoo) even though a collision is reported for every sent (...) (25 years ago, 17-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legos: Using dll with COM2
 
Both firmdl3 and dll should honor the environment variable RCXTTY. On Unix, you should probably set it in your .bashrc or .profile, like this: export RCXTTY="/dev/ttyS1" On Windows, you'll want to put this in your autoexec.bat: set RCXTTY=com2 Hope (...) (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legos: Using dll with COM2
 
Hi! How does one configure 'dll' to work with the tower connected on COM2? firmdl has a command line option, but I cannot find one for dll.... thanks for any help Vlad (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  EGCS v. GCC
 
Why was egcs chosen over gcc? It is my understanding that the egcs extensions have been incorporated back into gcc as of version 2.9.5. Also, egcs development has been discontinued. I'm curious because I am working on a DJGPP (32-bit DOS) port of (...) (25 years ago, 16-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Great! (...) No problem! :-) Of course it's better to keep everything in one place. Did you get some PHP-pages running for the documentation? I started with it, but could not finish due to lack of time... But I wil be happy to contribute. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) There is a discussion that somewhere in their site about their HW setup. Suffice to say that it is multiple terabytes in HD size, 40+ processors, yadda, yadda. Reliability and bandwidth are not an issue, I don't think. (...) I have too give (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Hi Luis, (...) That's great. The sourceforge server seems to have fairly decent bandwidth, judging from the speed legOS.sourceforge.net is coming up in my second window. (...) CVS is what attracted me in the first place. As repositories are (...) (25 years ago, 15-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) I actually just took care of it- legOS.sourceforge.net is now ours, and should be propagating towards your DNS servers as we speak. It'll be a few hours (their setup time) and probably Wednesday (my time- "Mathematical Foundations of Computer (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
Martin Cornelius schrieb: (...) Luis said he was, a week ago. Markus. (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Someway it looks like there is another problem with your setup, in near mode i have never seen the collision problem. Perhaps your encountering the problem reported by Toni: Obviuosly his uart does not work in 16450 mode, but does work in (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
I applied the patch manually (ok. I admit it was fairly obvious where the changes had to be made) Maby I made a mistake applying the patch or something as I still get Collission errors. I tried two IR towers in both near and far mode, still the same (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) hmm, once again it looks like we need a public place to exchange such things.. is anybody still looking after the sourceforge stuff ? (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  How about LegOS & IR "long range"?
 
Well. It's a bit strange that under LegOS you "must" work only in "near"/"short range" mode. So I've modified my kernel to work always in "far" or "long range" mode (that works with near too)... Now I'm able to upload kernel and .lx to my RCX placed (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Martin's Patch for LNPD and the LEGO Remote
 
Interestingly enough, this patch makes it possible for me to modify the code inside lnpd to allow it to receive signals from the Lego Remote (9738). Prior to the patch, I was getting a framing error whenever the remote sent a message with a single (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  (fwd) Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
The problem is that lines in Martin's original message got folded over by email. You'll have to bring the patch into an editor and combine lines 8 and 9 of the original post (be sure there is a space between "..time, " and "tx _..." Then combine the (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) Pardon, Mike, i should have anticipated that, because i had the same problem when i first tried to apply a patch. The usage of patch is a little uncommon: You have to provide the patch through stdin !. Thus, i'd suggest the following (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
No matter what I do (opening the window, turning on more lights etc) I can't get the tower to stop seeing collissions. I must admit that IR reflects so well in my house that the TV remote works form other rooms. So I tried loading your patch (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  patch for lnpd ( Collision problem in far-mode )
 
(...) i had never seen this interesting effect, because i always had my tower in near mode, where it only happens if you put the tower straight in front of a wall. I suspect it's a little more complex to explain what happens here, because the tower (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Windows NT Success Story!
 
Thanks a lot for this really helpful and detailed post! Especially thanks for making the result of your success story available for download. This allowed me to simply download the whole thing and start experimenting with legOS applications rather (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: LNP Example please
 
I have observed the same behavior... only by night. I think it must be the tower receiving echoes of its own packets. The sollution: place the tower far away from objects that can reflect light (including yourself). I also changed the tower battery (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
*Embarrased look* sorry I shouldn't of missed that.. Sorry to hassle you but I am stuck yet again. The lnptest program just records collision after collision. I have no other IR devices in the area (as far as I know anyway) It doesn't display any of (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: static version of lnpd uploaded to arthudent
 
(...) Should be up now. Sorry about the delay- I haven't been home in slightly over 24 hours :) -Luis ###...### Profanity is the one language that all programmers understand. -Anonymous ###...### (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Tactical Robot - A robot that play a board game REALLY!!!
 
-- ___...___ Ferrara Francesco Jeffrey Baldwin <Heatwaaave@aol.com> wrote in message news:FpGE5u.B4w@lugnet.com... (...) know (...) TAR Know when it win, and make some sounds when it is in advantage... (relative to its score!) I have spent 2-3 (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) Well, it's mentioned in the README ;-), but obviously not detailed enough. The problem is: the dynamic loader doesn't find the library you linked against. The dynamic loader is a program that is started whenever you execute a dynamically (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
Just updated my libc version (I love apt-get on debian linux... woohoo... it took about 30 seconds to update about 6 core applications on my system with a single simple command !!) Ok. it now complies without a problem and lnp also appears to run (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  static version of lnpd uploaded to arthudent
 
Because of several reports about compiling problems with lnpd, i made a static version and uploaded it to arthurdent. It's quite fat: 373942 bytes, compared to the dynamic, which is 21352, but we all have at least 512 Megs, don't we ? I guess it (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) you are probably using an older version of glibc, which doesn't have the argp stuff. This has been reported several times, and i begin to think it was a bad decision to use this interface instead of getopt(). However, it's so easy to use... If (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: using the remote control with legOS
 
it would be nice to be able to use both LNP and remote control (advance tactical robots) I wrote last night a small win prog to figure out how the remote is talking and this is it: +++ // LEGO REMOTE CONTROL (#9738 = ~20 USD) FOR RCX MESSAGE (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
Just tell me if I am been lazy but I can't find the argp.h file anywhere. abacus:~/lego/lnpd+liblnp$ make depend for i in lnpd liblnp applications ; do make -C $i depend || exit -1 ; done make[1]: Entering directory `/home/mike/lego/lnp...blnp/lnpd' (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Too many sensors
 
(...) uhh, it looks i missed something quite important - how do you accomplish that ? --Martin (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) Great, i'd really love doing work like this. If you intend to use lnpd+liblnp on the PC side, i'd be very interested in the results. (...) yes, exactly. The addressing layer gives you connectionless functionality very similar to UDP. A packet (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
I've got 2 RCX's and 2 pc's in the same room so will be working with this over the next couple of weeks. The 2 RCX units work really well, my next step is to get the PC's to join the party. My implementation of LNP so far leads me to believe it is a (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  new version of winlegOS
 
There is now a new version of WinLegOS up for public dissemination: (URL) told it should run on NT machines as well as win98. All thanks again to Rossz. -Luis ###...### Profanity is the one language that all programmers understand. -Anonymous (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Too many sensors
 
Ben Jackson wrote: > You could do it but you'd lose rotations as long as the button was pressed. > You'd probably need alternate firmware to even get that working well. I can live with losing rotation when the button is pressed. I may have to reset (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Too many sensors
 
(...) You could do it but you'd lose rotations as long as the button was pressed. You'd probably need alternate firmware to even get that working well. So on one port you can have (1 touch + 1 light/temp), (1 rotation) or (4 touch). The last with (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Too many sensors
 
I received a package from Lego yesterday. It contained gears, a motor, and two rotation sensors. Now I'm stuck trying to figure out how to use all five sensors at once, 1 light, 2 touch, 2 rotation. I know how to combine a light with a touch, but (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) of course, Michael ! BTW, if anybody out there does LNP communication involving several RCX's and a PC running lnpd, i'd be very interested in unsatisfying results, especially regarding congestion -- having only 1 RCX i could never test lnpd (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
Woops sorry I was referring to the bit above that (...) I think this should be write not send. (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Windows NT Success Story!
 
I'm pleased to announce that the NT boxes in our computer science lab has LegOS installed and running under Cygwin! I'd like to share this success story in the hope that it might help those who are still battling the Redmond Behemoth. In our lab we (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LNP Example please
 
(...) hmm, really strange, in my legOS-distribution the name of the function is lnp_addressing_write, there is no function named lnp_addressing_send -- where have you got your legOS ? (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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