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  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) So, if they had sued him 2.5 years ago, you would have supported them? Just wondering. It's because of thinking like this that most companies would have sued him long ago... Troy PS: I thought it was just common sense, atleast around here, (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
The way I read the article it didn't seem that they were so much upset that he had come up with the new OS, but rather that he had named it legOS. No matter how you look at it, or what excuse he can come up for choosing that name, it is pushing the (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) I agree with you, Jürgen. It seems that we have to contend with taht viewpoint though. Hopefully if any of tyhe new product line doesn't do as well as expected, we will not see some genius in the company decide to go after people who add value (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) I think this is speculation by the author of the article. Apart from the issue about names and trademarks, for me this article shows an extremely irritating attitude towards customers, sue people as soon as they use something in a different (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch)
 
  Re: Instructions for LegOS USB support
 
(...) As for lejos, we are waiting to get our hands on a USB tower. Jürgen (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: RCX 3.0 and legOS 1.2.4
 
This is copyied from "Mindstorms Not Just a Kid's Toy" by Paul Wallich in IEEE Spectrum September 2001: "With version 2.0 of the RCX firmware due this fall, the original hardware may have gone as far as its designers can take it, and what directions (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: EmuLegOs lives again
 
Hi Luis Is it possible to make legOS homepage better? I think that's too simple and dull, don't you think so? then can you modify something in your HOWTOs when you do this updating? for example, in (URL) this code seems isn't compiled in legOS (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: EmuLegOs lives again
 
This /rocks/. Hopefully I'll update the Lego and legOS HOWTOs to point to this soon. Luis (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) see (...) I think it's similar enough to LEGO that they'd have had a reasonable case if they'd fought it earlier. But now it's debatable whether they'd have any case at all. ROSCO (IANAL) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Instructions for LegOS USB support
 
(...) I'd be interested in tackling Linux, but we can't get the new towers in Australia yet 8?( ROSCO (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) Yeah, I saw your post on slashdot after I'd posted the link here. As you say, if they don't defend their trademark within a reasonable time, they lose the right to do so. I guess the best course of action in this case is "no action"!! ROSCO (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) You ain't just whistlin' Dixie here Ka-On... Off-topic time: Typical "Time Magazine type" twist on the story here...I hate reading Time because every story seems to be written with an antagonistic bent, trying to stir up trouble, instead of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) from that tiny yellow box? So it got a generic CPU that can read voltage from 3 ports and can adjust 3 power outputs. Really cutting-edge stuff there... That article is just full of you-know-what. (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
(...) Hmmm, does this mean they're acknowledging that people call them "legos" ? ~Grand Admiral Muffin Head (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Instructions for LegOS USB support
 
Sigh. Doesn't look like there is any chance that this would work for *nix, except maybe with severe Wine hackery. Has anyone else (with any of the other alternative OSs) tackled the problem of the new towers? I suppose I can try plying one of my (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
Having registered legOS.sourceforge.net (on Markus's word that TLG had given him permission to use the name), having run the last release of legOS, and having not heard anything from TLG myself, I can say that there are no plans in this corner of (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch)
 
  Re: New patch for remote and message
 
Zhengrong: If you can get a login on sourceforge, and you can send me a patch to review quickly for style and content, I can give you write access to legOS CVS to add your code to the main CVS tree. Thanks for all the effort you've made; sorry I've (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legOS - Which site?
 
(...) legOS.sourceforge.net is the canonical site for legOS and has been for more than a year. I've asked Markus to take down his site (since he does not keep up with the newer documentation or file releases) but he has not responded to my emails on (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
They can't possibly do that. According to many published accounts, TLC explicitly says that their product is not to be referred to as "legos" but rather as "LEGO brand building bricks". Therefore, TLC has given up rights to the use of the word (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  RE: LegOS forced to use another name?
 
Ross crawford points to: (...) I can see their point too. As long as it's only about the name then I can't see anyone getting too upset. It's just a name, after all. But if it's about the replacement firmware, then I have more to worry about. So do (...) (23 years ago, 10-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.pbforth)
 
  Re: RCX 3.0 and legOS 1.2.4
 
(...) Hmmmm. Sounds intrigueing. Call me a pessimist, but I'd be surprised if they released a 3.0 so soon after 2.0. And the comment about LegOS is stranger, given the article I just posted, and the fact that most of the developers are right here, (...) (23 years ago, 9-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  LegOS forced to use another name?
 
Article here: (URL) TLC may be talking to Marcus Noga about his use of "LegOS" for the open-source operating system for the Mindstorms RCX (see last page). I can see their point. Personally, I think "NogOS" has a bit of a ring to it 8?) What does (...) (23 years ago, 9-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos, lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.general, lugnet.mediawatch) ! 
 
  RCX 3.0 and legOS 1.2.4
 
LEGO company will release RCX 3.0 at the end of next year, it will have 6 input port and 6 output port, 20x200 dots LCD, CPU is H8/3294 with 32K ROM and 64K RAM, it has a power socket as RCX 1.0, and with a built-in speaker, you can play wav or mid (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx, lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  New patch for remote and message
 
I made a new patch for remote control and standard firmware message communication, I defined three config constants in config.h: 1. CONF_REMOTE_CTRL: Remote control services, comment it if you don't use remote control. 2. CONF_MESSAGE: Standard (...) (23 years ago, 7-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legOS - Which site?
 
(...) Version 2.5 from Sourceforge is the latest. (...) Installed it the other day using these instructions without any problems: (URL) only thing that varies from memory, was setting the environment variables. (...) Not sure, but I don't think so. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legOS - Which site?
 
Hi, I'm still new to legOS, and the RIS come to that, and while looking for info on legOS came across both of these : (URL) seem to have different versions. Noga.de seems to have more up-to-date newsposts despite having an older version of legOS. (...) (23 years ago, 6-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Why compiler can't find header file program.h?
 
I found the reason, there are two config.h, one is for kernel in boot directory, one is for dll in dll-src, they have different definition. Zhengrong (...) (23 years ago, 5-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Why compiler can't find header file program.h?
 
I add lines as below into lnp.c #ifdef CONF_PROGRAM #include <sys/program.h> #endif But I got error message when compile it. lnp.c:36: sys/program.h: No such file or directory In some lnp.c file, there are #ifdef CONF_VIS #include <dlcd.h> #include (...) (23 years ago, 5-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Instructions for LegOS USB support
 
A friend of mine recently bought the 2.0 RCX and sent me the following information regarding getting USB and LegOS to play nice. He did this on a Win2K system. I have the old 1.0 RCX so please don't ask me how to make this work. Here is his e-mail (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: tweaking around dlcd_show( )
 
(...) Due to an error of my news-reader I missed some answers to your original post. Probably mine is a little late. bye Bernardo e-mail: dibbe@freestation.it (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: tweaking around dlcd_show( )
 
Thank you Bernardo. As I explained during the discussion with Martin, I decided to use rather arrays of functions. So now I've got my own functions like void Lcd4BotL(){ dlcd_show(LCD_4_BOTL); } and the use of the array with an index is now fully (...) (23 years ago, 4-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: tweaking around dlcd_show( )
 
(...) The macros LCD_?_* expand to two integers, separated by a comma; dlc_show() is a macro that expects one argument but uses it as an argument to macros expecting two arguments. I don't know exactly how this works, but it's to do with the order (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  My seggiestion about remote control patach
 
I think remote control can be divided two parts: 1. defatk mode, if you user doesn't provide remote handler, the default hanlder will be called, key M1-M3 send standard message 1-3, A1-C1/A2-C2 increase/decrease 1 outport port a-c, P1-P5 run program (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: legos application downlod protocol
 
legOS has two download programs, firmdl3.exe for kernel, and dll.exe for user program, you can check source files /legOS/util/firmdl/rcx_comm.c and /legOS/util/dll-src/loader.c. You can find LNP in file /legOS/kernel/lnp.c and lnp-logical.c. Br (...) (23 years ago, 3-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  legos application downlod protocol
 
Hi, I'm a developer for leJOS (a Java VM on the RCX) and I am interested in how legos applications are transfered from the PC to the RCX (basically because the leJOS mechanism seems to be fairly flakey and I'd rather not try to implement an entire (...) (23 years ago, 2-Sep-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  dll: error deleting program
 
I've got legos version 0.2.5 and I get an error when I try to use the dll program. I've just installed the kernel and that seemed to go ok. Here's the output from dll: # ./dll --tty=/dev/ttyS1 -v -e ../code/helloworld.lx opening tty... KeepAlive (...) (23 years ago, 31-Aug-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: Remote control patch
 
I think you should modify that patch as (URL) it can't work correctly! Zhengrong (...) (23 years ago, 30-Aug-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: NQC SendMessage to legOS successful!
 
Congratulations! (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  Re: NQC SendMessage to legOS successful!
 
Well, legOS send message to NQC is also successful! lnp_message_write(msg); is used in legOS. Zhengrong (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)
 
  NQC SendMessage to legOS successful!
 
I hacked legOS and make NQC sending standard firmware message to legOS, you an see the test legOS and NQC program as below, NQC program send a random message and display it, legOS program receives that message and display it. But I can't implement (...) (23 years ago, 28-Aug-01, to lugnet.robotics.rcx.legos)


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