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Re: An Idea for new Mindstorm
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:46:32 GMT
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On 6/24/05, lego-robotics@crynwr.com <lego-robotics@crynwr.com> wrote:

What programs? It is tough question. Classics like line following and walker
would be a good start.

I personally, think that price of $10-20 for the sotware only would be a fine
deal. Provided that production costs are about $1-2 per item (it is why SD
cards
are not so good - they cost at least $5-10).


Personally, I don't agree with factory-made programs. Apart from lowering the
learning curve (as referred in another message), it deprives us from what I
think to be the main idea around Mindstorms and programmable LEGO: freedom!
freedom to create what you want, to add the sensors and the motors you wish
and, most of all, to control your creations' behaviour!
Imagine you wanted to create a robot that walked forward with a touch sensor
attached on the front. When it touched an object it would walk back, spin
twice
and go forward again in the same direction. It's a somewhat "stupid"
program...
But hey!, it's freedom! You want to create a program like this, so you create
it! Who's gonna stop you? Even if it is a complete non-sense, you have the
freedom to create it. But do you think TLC would sell a program like this for
10
$-20$? And even if they did, who would buy it? I wouldn't pay half a dollar
for
it... Because even if i need the program, i'd prefer to program it myself:
that's the challenge on mindstorms, that's where resides all the fun =) TLC
would be limiting our freedom to create and to program our robots. And that
would bring some headaches to a lot of people who want to program their own
creations...
Sincerely, I don't think that those "pre-programmed programs" would be very
popular... But it's a new idea, anyway ;)
Best regards,
João Pedro
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Unless I misunderstood the thread - I thought the concept was that the
inital box would come with some programs, you could buy others, or you
could buy(or utilise) a module allowing the freedom to program from a
PC.

Its not restricting the freedoms - but it is guaranteeing follow up
sales on a product. The base unit would be cheaper than the current
RCX, but instead of having many fractured and different base units -
it would be upgradable with other modules to give additional
functionality. And as long as Lego keep the base unit cheap - and
ensure that the base unit, plus external motor/sensor module, plus
programming module is not much more than the current RIS - then you
are just as able to do what you would do now (and possibly more). But
if you are just starting out - you could simply buy the base module,
with base programs - for about the price of a spybotics set. I am not
sure about $10-20 per program, as they are only simple ones - I think
$1-$5 is about right (the price of a small set).

I can actually visualise how the main unit and the modules would look
too. Let me put it together and I will pop the pictures up on
OrionRobots later.

Danny
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