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Re: An Idea for new Mindstorm
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:34:53 GMT
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Citando Alexander Horoshilov <hor@demo.ru>:
In lugnet.robotics, Steve Hassenplug wrote:
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> Sorry if I misunderstood you. But, actually, I was talking about the blue
Scout,
> not the Microscout (from the droid developer kit)
Oh, It may be because of my cumbersome explanation. I do not have DDK and do
not
know about that Scout abilities. But I still expect that it is limited to
some
built-in programs only. Is it?
> So, what programs do you think TLC should write? And, how much would you
pay for a
> program?
What programs? It is tough question. Classics like line following and walker
would be a good start.
I personally, think that price of $10-20 for the sotware only would be a fine
deal. Provided that production costs are about $1-2 per item (it is why SD
cards
are not so good - they cost at least $5-10).
Personally, I don't agree with factory-made programs. Apart from lowering the
learning curve (as referred in another message), it deprives us from what I
think to be the main idea around Mindstorms and programmable LEGO: freedom!
freedom to create what you want, to add the sensors and the motors you wish
and, most of all, to control your creations' behaviour!
Imagine you wanted to create a robot that walked forward with a touch sensor
attached on the front. When it touched an object it would walk back, spin twice
and go forward again in the same direction. It's a somewhat "stupid" program...
But hey!, it's freedom! You want to create a program like this, so you create
it! Who's gonna stop you? Even if it is a complete non-sense, you have the
freedom to create it. But do you think TLC would sell a program like this for 10
$-20$? And even if they did, who would buy it? I wouldn't pay half a dollar for
it... Because even if i need the program, i'd prefer to program it myself:
that's the challenge on mindstorms, that's where resides all the fun =) TLC
would be limiting our freedom to create and to program our robots. And that
would bring some headaches to a lot of people who want to program their own
creations...
Sincerely, I don't think that those "pre-programmed programs" would be very
popular... But it's a new idea, anyway ;)
Best regards,
João Pedro
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Message has 3 Replies:
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| (...) Unless I misunderstood the thread - I thought the concept was that the inital box would come with some programs, you could buy others, or you could buy(or utilise) a module allowing the freedom to program from a PC. Its not restricting the (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.robotics)
| | | Re: An Idea for new Mindstorm
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| (...) "The idea" is to made Mindstorms attractive for those who do not like programming. If you do like, then you need and extra kit which will allow you to create your own programs like current RCX. You will able to create your own program. So (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.robotics)
| | | Re: An Idea for new Mindstorm
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| (...) I have to agree. If you don't want to build programmable robots, why not just build a motorized model with a motor and battery box. The whole point of Mindstorms, as I see it, is that you "add" programming to a structure of Lego elements to (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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| (...) Oh, It may be because of my cumbersome explanation. I do not have DDK and do not know about that Scout abilities. But I still expect that it is limited to some built-in programs only. Is it? (...) What programs? It is tough question. Classics (...) (19 years ago, 24-Jun-05, to lugnet.robotics)
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