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lube.... —Chris Magno

So here I sit, My X-bot is in smaller and smaller parts. As I get down into the gear trains, and sliders, I notice a LOT of lego dust. This should not come as a surprise. many of you made comment about the dust on the worm to 24T gear gripper. (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Trevyn Watson

Remember guys, "The Plastic Dust Is Normal". Also remember, Lego is very nice about replacing broken parts. I phoned them up and they told me that they would even replace parts that i had stepped on. There is also a way to tell if someone has been (...) (22 years ago, 27-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Iain Hendry

"Chris Magno" <cmagno@rogers.com> wrote in message news:3C7D7696.8E5DD7...ers.com... (...) Yes, and ask me instead. Iain (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Chris Magno

(...) Hey, Iain: What's new? how is life? I have now re-sorted most of the x-bot back into my storage system. So, I was wondering. Do you have a wealth of information that you could share with me regarding lubricants? :) Chris (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Bruce Sheridan

Admit it, you're looking for trouble. (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Calum Tsang

(...) No. Unmodified. Next thing you'll ask is to use glue. Calum Pretend, Chris, there IS NO PLAN B. (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube....and glue ... ? —Oliver Giesen

Hey are we allowed to use lubracants AND glue ? ! Cool ! Look out Battlebots !!! (1) What if they get mixed up ? I mean "Oh the Lego!"(2) Cheers Oliver 1. "And Now in the red corner ! 375Lbs of fused Lego!" 2. Yes I know mangled the quote. "Calum (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Iain Hendry

"Calum Tsang" <tsangc@mie.utoronto.ca> wrote in message news:Gs86JH.GMF@lugnet.com... (...) Uh, wow, what an excellent, group-active debate *that* was. In all seriousness, when was the last time *you* built something so large, complex, and (...) (22 years ago, 28-Feb-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Calum Tsang

(...) Four days ago at rtl10, thank you. Our entry was covered in plastic dust. (...) The difference is that while one may call it preventative care, others may call it competitive advantage. I do not wish to get into what lubrications are allowed (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Iain Hendry

"Calum Tsang" <tsangc@mie.utoronto.ca> wrote in message news:Gs9pnu.9G0@lugnet.com... (...) argument (...) Weak? PREVENTATIVE CARE IS THE SOLE PURPOSE OF LUBRICANTS. Well, with LEGO, anyway. So you would mean to say: "Iain's LEGO was less dammaged (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Derek Raycraft

(...) I see competitive advantage. To take an example from our recent contest: Several X-bots used bricks sliding on tile designs. Many of these bots had piles of generated dust afterwards. It is, however a design decision to use bricks running on (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Jeff Van Winden

(...) snip (...) snip (...) All of these lubriciant comments, and no mention of using lego lubricant... i.e. OILY TIRES!!!! Jeff VW (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Derek Raycraft

(...) I was thinking about that. I've actually received bricks that were almost dripping with mold release. Derek (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Matthias Jetleb

O.K. I'm going to regret this simply because I usually avoid heated debates and I should know better but.... Calum, try not to take any of this too personally. It is intended for the purposes of debate and not an attack on anyone's mind set (yours, (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Calum Tsang

(...) Okay, don't worry about that. Iain and I aren't taking it too personally either. (...) Yes, it gives people an advantage, but I'm not against them because not everyone can get them. I'm against them because when you say lubricants, that could (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Chris Magno

Matthias, Your points are valid and i could not explain them better. Thank you. This topic has a few grey areas. (...) Yes, Calum I did tell you this. And for the most part it is true. Only one part was so badly worn that I would not use it in THAT (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

All this talk about Lube, got me to think...... So I decided to do a small experiment. Everyone knows that I am a fan of measuring the speed of my lego motors. i use the official lego speed counter. here is what i did and found: I took a worm to 24 (...) (22 years ago, 2-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Calum Tsang

(...) It doesn't prove anything, Chris. I have two objections to your "test": -Worm to 24t is a very simple gear mechanism. You know as well as I do that friction doesn't build up with only two gears. -The viscosity of the Vaseline probably causes (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Iain Hendry

I wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore. I wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore. I wasn't going to reply to this thread anymore. "Calum Tsang" <tsangc@mie.utoronto.ca> wrote in message news:GsEKyz.9C3@lugnet.com... (...) Why something (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) I never did this to PROVE CONCLUSIVELY one theory or another. I even stated that it was a VERY INFORMAL "test" (...) !!!!WHAT!!!!! did you really study engineering at U ot T????? AGRH!!!! you are so lucky small children MIGHT be reading cause (...) (22 years ago, 3-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —David Schilling

(...) See the following post on lugnet: (URL) more directly, go to: (URL) and scroll about a third of the way down the page. I guess the speed computer has a much lower resolution (3 vs 16 ticks per revolution) but then it's doing a different job, (...) (22 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) Thank you for this. WOW. 3 tick per Revolution. that's bad. what is this some kind of toy? :) Chris Pretend this says something funny (22 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

While Janey and I were discussing Lube's of one kind or another, we found this old thread. (URL) would seem I can now recall WHY I have a worm to 24t sub assembly all covered with vaseline. After almost 5 years of on and off use, this one sub (...) (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Derek Raycraft

(...) Derek (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —C. L. GunningCook

(...) Giggle, oh Derek made a funny! Janey "I'm just relieved by why I found vaseline on the Lego, Red Brick" (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —David Koudys

(...) Eh-Oh!!! Family Show!! K, let's all pause for a moment and picture what Janey might be inferring... Ewwww..... Dave K (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) oh ~I~ know what she might be inferring. I think you do to Dave. You saw the vaseline(tm)(1) on the lego at the hobby show. You asked. Clearly we are all talking about the same thing. Heck - This is a shot of me explaining about the (...) (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Timothy P. Smith

(...) Don't you have graphite in Canadia? Vaseline is great for some things- but not Lego. (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) Graphite does exist. But its not the best for 2 reasons. 1. it can be VERY messy, and 2. its has been linked as a carcinogen. Chris (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Timothy P. Smith

(...) 1. Use sparingly. 2. You're kidding, right? Carbon causes cancer? (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Anthony Sava

(...) Hey, it's like dihydrogen monoxide, get too much in your system and it'll kill you. --Tony (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Timothy P. Smith

(...) Which takes us right back to 1). 1) Use sparingly. Probably needs a few more warnings: For External Use Only Keep away from Fire or Flame (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) The MSDS for Crown Dry Graphite says this: CARCINOGENICITY: Trichloroethylene is not listed as a human carcinogen by OSHA. It is listed by ACGIH as TLV-A5, “Not suspected as a Human Carcinogen”; by NTP as R “Reasonably Anticipated To Be A (...) (17 years ago, 16-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Timothy P. Smith

(...) Chris, it's hard to argue with logic like that. (17 years ago, 16-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) Dihydrogen Monoxide is a killer - its the LEADING cause of drowning, it can suffocate you, and lets not forget how this nasty chemical is in almost everything. The list is almost endless.(1) I say we BAN this nasty chemical! Chris hey hey, ho (...) (17 years ago, 16-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —C. L. GunningCook

(...) Hey, you!!! Dont try to get me in trouble!!! Giggle. Me? Infer anything? Surely you jest. And in total honesty, the night before the Hobby Show, while sitting at his building table, going over all of our moving mocs, I really truly did (most (...) (17 years ago, 16-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) See, I just dont get it; sometimes, My Sony Ericson K510a 2 meg camera will take a fantastic picture. I try to ensure a neutral background, and ample lighting. Shrug. I guess it the glass. I need better glass. Do you think Swarovski makes a (...) (17 years ago, 15-Nov-07, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Derek Raycraft

(...) Really to be a valid test you should put the worm to 24T under load. This is when a performance difference will show up. However it could be tricky to setup. The simplest way would be to lift a weight a fixed distance. Use string (non-lego if (...) (22 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube experiment —Chris Magno

(...) Derek, you are correct. this would be a way better way. :) I am sad to say thought that this whole lube novelty has worn off. If i remember in future, i will just dab a bit on and not mention it. --GASP-- :) Chris Pretend I never said that (22 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Derek Raycraft

(...) No I don't think anyone wants to intentionally break parts. Well they might but that's their problem. :-) And I should clarify that I don't think a design that damages parts is a poor design if its getting the job done. You did a lot better (...) (22 years ago, 4-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Chris Magno

(...) you just game me a silly idea for a new lego game..... greased robots. run along the same lines as a greased pig contest. lube up a bot and we all run around and try to catch the lubed beast. :) -- Chris Pretend this says something funny (22 years ago, 5-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)

Re: lube.... —Jeff Elliott

Actually, it's funny you mention this... I was trying out a simple chassis the other day, and I had two identical parallel gear trains.. but my robot was still turning, ie: one was a lot faster. I finally figured out the problem: one was built using (...) (22 years ago, 1-Mar-02, to lugnet.org.ca.rtltoronto)