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Ben: (...) A website with "click agree pages" that can be bypassed by something as simple as a bookmark are defect, and nobody in their sane mind would ever admit having seen such a "click agree page". The world wide web works by URL's, and it is a (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) One reason is that it could possibly by-pass any relevant disclaimers that the owner of the web site puts on the front page. Are you still bound to the agreement made when you click "I agree" if you never see that page? Ben Roller (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Matthew: (...) Nice to hear that the web can continue to work in the US too. Why do you write that it may be impolite to link directly to a page? I find it most impolite _not_ to link directly to the relevant page. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- (...) (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Excellent. Thanks for posting this! --Todd (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Well, I for one am glad to see this: (URL). While it may be impolite, linking to something deep within a website is not illegal. (25 years ago, 30-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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(...) [action type="give_beanie"] Here, Franklin. [/action] -Cheese (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) Nah, nothing as heinous as a stack error - it was the NoDefClass (?) error - basically it wasn't finding the ice stuff. I have some free time tomorrow - so I *will* get it working, and post a fix here.. it's probably something *really* simple. (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) heh, that occured to me... while I dislike java, I'll give it a shot :) (...) yes, but in that case, you increase the delay from the time the message is posted, and the time the client displays it... it'll be 2-10 minutes, assuming the 1/5 min (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Whoops, good point! After I implement a spooling server, of course. :-, (...) Mmmmmm. That'd be nice. Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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In lugnet.off-topic.geek, Jeremy H. Sproat writes: bite? (...) or, have it connect to your spooling message server... (...) nope, though Todd said it's possible to have it in the avid.cgi output... I was thinking of how we could remotely vote... (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) BTW, did you see any kind of output indicating an error, such as a stack trace? If so, could you please e-mail it to me or post it here? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Good point. I wasn't clear enough. This does not require any browser support of Java. Instead, it's a Java application which periodically *launches* Netscape (could be any browser, regardless of Java support). (...) This, essentially, is what (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Try running the command inside run.bat. After getting it all back on one line, it's: java -classpath external_classes\ice...g_news.jar sproat.lugnet.news.s....GUIClient Oops. Hmmm. I need to fix that. For Linux, it'd probably be: java (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Re: GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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(...) I did, although I was too ashamed to admit that I couldn't get it working.. (linux) I tried (actually, I'm in win at the moment so I can't remember the exact filename names!): $ java -jar gui_streaming_client.jar (couldn't find the ice html (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) sorry, man, can't try it out - it requires java, which mozilla does not support yet. I'd love to see what it does, if only to get ideas for the perl streamer I'm working (slowly) on... I haven't really done anything since I got it to work - (...) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Wow. Not one reply. Two people (including myself) gave the original message a score of 100, though. Did anyone download and try the client? Was the cold response the result of my presentation, or did the app just bite? Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | Geek Pride Day
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Hey, all you Boston geeks (you know who you are)! Has everyone heard of the Geek Pride Festival this Saturday? You'll all be there, yeah? (URL) This is not an April Fool's joke. Or if it is, it's a very elaborate one and I've been taken in. :) (25 years ago, 29-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek, lugnet.loc.us.ma.bos)
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(...) Sorry about the late answer -- I've been on vacation. You may want to notice that XAnim only displays I-frames, not B or P. This may be why it looks jerky to you. I would suggest using mpeg_play to playback the movie rather than XAnim, or you (...) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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| | Re: IE5 for Mac is out
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(...) Someone who was tired of Communicator crashing? :) (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Okay, but don't come crying to me when it gives you "BadTimes". *smirk* -Cheese (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Someone who wants to support it as a client at their site? --Todd (25 years ago, 28-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) -Cheese "You'll take my PowerComputing box when you pry my cold, dead fingers off it!" (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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subject says it all (URL) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Larry Pieniazek wrote in message <38DD5006.D12145B9@n...ra.com>... (...) Ooh, neat question. Unfortunately for some metrics, we may not be able to get much detail (I'm fully suspecting that there are some embedded processor deals with a web (...) (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Is it true that those things cause blindness after 20 years use? Richard (25 years ago, 27-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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I just have to ask: Is there any actual USE for this thing other than the novelty factor? (reason enough for doing it, of course) What's the oldest iron known to be interfaced to the net this way? The dumbest (most limited CPU) The smallest? (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) You can probably start the app from the command line with --geometry... (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Whoops. c /rendering engine/UI/ as we DO care about the rendering engine. also c/underneat/underneath/ would that what was underneath were neat. ++Lar (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Since you brought up Gnome+Enlightenment and keyboard access, maybe someone can help with this. I have one of those keyboards with the Windows icon keys and that other (worthless to me) right-click key. Can I get Gnome's main menu to come up (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Keyboard support for almost everything (a highly fortuitous legacy feature left over from Windows 1.0 before mouses) is one of the very few things I *love* about Windows. Alt- to get to any app's menu bar (whether it uses &-underlining in the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Worked! Thanks. Thanks also for not ranting about how MS was braindead in how they did resize... I think under X you can just go in and modify properties directly to get size and position to change. (...) Good thing the first thing worked as (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) Might not work in this case, but this has worked for me before in similar cases: Alt-Tab to the app so it gets focus; then use Alt-Space-S to resize and hold down the Right Arrow key for a second, then the Down Arrow key for a second, then hit (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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Under windows 95, I've got an application window that's gone missing. That is, I can maximise it, and I can minimise it, but when I do a non maximised restore, it's not there. I think it somehow got either its size set to 0 or its position sent off (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) I'm having trouble parsing the above paragraph taken as a whole in light of reality unless you're being deliberately mouthpieceish/obtuse. Here are a few tidbits. MS has a track record of doing things to screw other companies over. It goes (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) My understanding is that very little of it is based on Navigator code at this point. Early versions of Mozilla were, but then the developers decided that there was too much cruft and started over from scratch, this time with A Plan. This is (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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| | GUI LUGNET streaming news client in Java (Was: Pseudo-streaming live news (was: Re: Monitor Page))
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[reposting and crossposting to .geek to get a wider audience] [f-ups to .geek] (...) (URL) the source: (URL) - The very first update takes the latest avid.cgi message number and subtracts 20 from it and starts reading messages based on *that*, (...) (25 years ago, 25-Mar-00, to lugnet.admin.general, lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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(URL) images were taken by the NEAR probe orbiting the asteroid Eros. It's kinda eerie, watching an animation of a rock a quarter-bilion miles away. :-, Cheers, - jsproat (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek) !
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| | Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer
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(...) Yeah, it does. Thanks. So what that probably means is that within a year or so we'll have a version of mozilla that ultra-geeks know and love, maybe within 5 years we'll get some media hype, then we'll see normal people move over to it, some (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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On Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:29:30 GMT Mike Stanley <cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com> wrote concerning 'Re: Why MSIE sucks for the HTML writer': (...) I think you're misunderstanding the point. Mozilla (the browser Todd is referring to) is _not_ written or sold by (...) (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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(...) You repeat this over and over again, as if simply stating it will somehow make it more obvious and more true. Mozilla may turn out to be more than a browser. But who is making it? (25 years ago, 24-Mar-00, to lugnet.off-topic.geek)
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