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Re: Lego Creator Success
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Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:24:11 GMT
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On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 05:40:08 GMT, cjc@NOSPAMnewsguy.com (Mike Stanley)
wrote:

> Jasper Janssen <jasper@janssen.dynip.com> wrote:

> Ught.  :)  I just finished Baldur's Gate, the only non-3d accelerated
> game I've played in quite a while.  Now I'm reinstalling Half-life and
> Theif: The Dark Project, both 3d FPS-types.

Thief, yeah I heard people talkin' bout that.

> > None of the 3D cards has enough triangles/s for non-games openGL apps,
> > I've been told.
> 
> Dunno since I don't have the time to play with them.  I thought the
> TNT had heidi drivers, though, which ought to mean it will accelerate
> 3DSMax and stuff.  Maybe I'll find the time someday...

Well, basically there was a test of OpenGL cards in some mag a while
ago. Prof and games mixed. What it cam out to, *goes to look up*
*comes back, finds out it';s the wrong mag, and goes back again*
*finds out again the wrong mag* Anyway, the thing seems to be with
fill rate and triangles: a 3D renderer for say #Dstudio is likely to
use milliions of triangles, where a say, Quake scene uses typically
4000. Which means that most 3D game cards don't produce more than say
100.000 triangles/sec - too few for real scenes, whereas a prof 3D
card will have a very high triangles count, and a rather low
fill-rate: You don't want it to run at 1200*1600* 60fps, you want it
to run in 320*200 realtime, typically.

At least, this is about the explanation i remember reading.

> For 2D the G200 is excellent.  I have an Optiquest V95 19" monitor and
> I'm running 1600x1200x16bitx75hz - looks awesome.  I may get the 8mb
> upgrade at some point so I can do 32bit color, but it isn't really
> necessary.

Can't you even do 24? Yick. :) I run 1280*1024*32bit, for my 17"
monitor, that's plenty enough to make the fonts really small :)

> Wish I could stick to a budget for computers or Lego.  Things I need
> to buy for my machine alone this next week:  Buslogic BT958 UW scsi
> controller.  9GB IBM UltraStar HD.  Plextor 12/20x CDROM.  Diamond
> MX300 PCI Soundcard.

_need_ to buy. Uhuh. You do that kind of $500+ shopping sprees every
week?

Anyway, if I actually _had_ any money I'd spend it too, but I'm living
with my parents, and basically living off pocket money $200/mo. And I
just bought a RIS and 8880, and a Yamaha CDR-400t, and a NCR-860, and
my money's run out - especially if I decide I want that 5571 _really_
bad :)

> What I'm wondering is, I know I can do an NT install over the network
> fairly easy - done it before.  So I don't need a CDROM for that
> machine (I have an extra 8x but I'd rather leave it out and use it in
> the Linux box).  I'm wondering how easy it would be to do the same for
> the Linux box.  I might just dump the Redhat 5.2 CD to a 700 meg
> partition on the hd before I put it in that machine.

I just took an old IDE drive, plugged it in an old Multi-IO ISA
controller I had left, set to only have a secondary IDE, and used that
to install. Turn off, remove CD drive, turn on again.

RedHat can do NFS installs, I believe, but you'll have to serve the CD
on NFS first. I don't think the install can run off SMB (win95
sharing), even tho you can serve up SMB shares once you've installed
it.


> Both new machines will be Celeron 300A's overclocked to 450.  :)
> Actually, the NT server will be my wife's current P2-350 and she'll
> get one of the 450's.  Linux will live on the other one.

Cool.. wish I could afford to get a new motherboard and processor
again. If I find the money sometime soon, I'm just gonna plug a new
K6-350 or 400 in this motherboard. More likely a 350, btw, since the
motherboard is relatively old and likely doesn't support the
K6/2-400's cache trick :) Or mayber I should wait for a K6/3...
Choices, choices.. :)

If I had real money, I'd go the adventurous way and get me a dual
Celeron -450 system :). You need to do some _real_ work to make
celerons SMP :)

> The 350 has 128 megs, and I'll put 128 in Rachael's new machine.  I'm
> thinking Linux can deal with 64 for a while, though, just to save a
> little bit of money.

Well.. sure. I mean, my gateway uses 12 meg and doesn't spill over
into it's 10 meg swap partition, unless large mails arrive.

> Hrmmmm..... nope, but my subscription ran out a while ago.  I only
> ever read it for Pournelle's column anyway, though.  Have you checked
> their website?

That was the best part. try:

http://jerrypournelle.com

to read them yet again...

It also syas somewhere there that CMP hasn't contacted him about
restarting BYTE, ever. Looks like that's $100 down the drain :((

Jasper



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  Re: Lego Creator Success
 
(...) Very cool game. Looking forward to spending some more time with it. Definitely not your average shooter. (...) Hrmmm, makes sense, I guess. I hadn't thought of the rendering animation stuff, just rendering scenes. But that isn't really (...) (28 years ago, 20-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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  Re: Lego Creator Success
 
(...) Ught. :) I just finished Baldur's Gate, the only non-3d accelerated game I've played in quite a while. Now I'm reinstalling Half-life and Theif: The Dark Project, both 3d FPS-types. (...) Dunno since I don't have the time to play with them. I (...) (28 years ago, 19-Jan-99, to lugnet.off-topic.fun)

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