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Re: It IS about Taxation
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:03:24 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Christopher L. Weeks writes:
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> > In any instance of distribution of my wealth, if I have
> > given permission, it is not theft. But I think that anyone who wants my
> > wealth should ask, rather than seize.
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> Can it not be argued that by participating in the monetary system deployed
> by a government (in accordance, in the US, with the Constitution) a tax is
> simply a "service charge" for using goverment property (money)? That is, if
> you don't want to pay tax, don't trade in the coin of the realm. If you use
> money as distributed by the Fed, tax is a corresponding duty for that use.
> I'm just asking--this isn't necessarily my view, but I'm curious about its
> validity as an argument. If this is plowed ground, let me know.
Yes it can be so argued... (and yes, it's a bit plowed but worth reexamination)
A few points to consider:
- While the constitution speaks of coinage, it does not reserve coinage as a
(federal OR state) government monopoly.
- Coinage nevertheless is a defacto monopoly in the US, if you attempt to
establish a currency of your own, even an interconvertable one, you will be
in trouble with the feds.
- the IRS has held that barter that results in income is taxable. (when for
example, Chris trades his jars of clay to me for a Jars of Clay CD, that's
an income event, since he added value to the clay when he turned it into
jars and thus it's a taxable event)
I'd support a usage charge by the government for use of their currency if I
was allowed to arrange my affairs so as not to use their currency if I so
chose. (and thus, instead, pay a usage charge to the First Bank of Filz when
I used THEIR currency if that's what they levied)
Good question though.
++Lar
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