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Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You?
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Thu, 9 Oct 2003 19:25:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
Once again, you’re forgetting my prohibition against posting except when you
agree with me. I just don’t understand you sometimes.
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We are the chorus, and we agree,
we agree, we agree, we agree
- Bored of the Rings
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote:
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You dismissed a range of other candidates just because you didn’t know
their names. This suggests that your vote is based on celebrity or
notoriety in preference to substance; that’s hardly unique to you, but it’s
hardly a commendable trait in a would-be informed citizen.
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Honestly, I dismissed most of them for pretty much the same reason - I
didn’t know their name simply because they were not seriously running for
governor. And let’s add to that I dismissed the names that were similiar to
better known people but that I knew were not them. One other name got into
the press occasionally, Mary Carey, but let’s not go into her (OooooOOOOooo,
can I say that on Lugnet?). :-)
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There’s a difference, I think, between ignoring anonymous also-rans and
voting for someone just because he blows things up onscreen, which largely
appears to be the case re: Arnold. The anonymous also-rans could easily be
dismissed for their failure to put forth a credible plan of government, but
then we’d have to dismiss Arnold on those grounds, too. And no one else
aside from Arnold had the money or the free ride given by the press corps.
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No, we dismiss the anonymous simply because they are anonymous. I don’t have a
clue as to who they are. I at least knew beforehand who Arnold was, I could
spell his 14 letter last name, knew that he is a republican that allegedly is
conservative fiscally and liberal socially, favored some form of gun controls,
had a rather dubious tie to the Kennedys (a Shriver, ha!), spoke with a heavy
accent after years in the country (compare to Rutger Hauer), is a somewhat
ruthless competitor, has a lot of drive to succeed, can’t act but is a big movie
star (see My Favorite Year for the line Arnold should have had), and Blows Up
Things Real Good!
On the other hand, after the course of the campaign, I haven’t learned one truly
new thing about him or what he intends to do as Governor. :-)
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If you’re talking that Hitler crap just drop it. My own view is those who
brought up this are thinking they can pull off another David Duke
incident. It won’t work. I sure haven’t seen neo-nazi videos or photos
with Arnold.
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Let me get this straight--rather than discuss an issue with real relevance
to Arnold’s character, you’d prefer simply to drop it? That hardly seems
consistent with the mentality of an informed electorate.
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I’d say simply drop it, too. Even my ultra-liberal friends dismissed that
issue instantly because it was so obvious that the quotes were taken out of
context, as did I. Events proved that assumption to be right.
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Well, that being the case, I withdraw that objection, except to add that, had
Clinton even acknowleged ever hearing a taped speech by Hitler, The Liberal
Media would have ravaged him for years.
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The Conservative Media ravaged Clinton, anyway. Including that awful L.A.
Slimes. Do you know they ravaged the socially liberal Arnold, and published
fluff pieces on McClintock! Conservatives! Gad - gotta cancel my subscription
(oh dang, I’ve been buying it off the newstands...okay, I have to resubscribe
and then cancel).
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“My friends don’t want me to mention Kurt’s name, because of all the
recent Nazi stuff and the U.N. controversy, but I love him and Maria does
too, and so thank you. Kurt.”
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Guilt by association? Or expression of ideas?
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Maybe I’d just like to hear what Arnold and Maria “love” about Kurt.
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I rather imagine that Kurt does not goose-step about in their presense.
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Anyway, “guilt by association” is more than ample cause for Ashcroft to
detain people incommunicado indefinitely; maybe he should lock Arnold away
for a few months...
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If that was true, Ashcroft would have to arrest all his own buddies for
consorting with a Nazi. :-)
-->Bruce<--
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: Once again, you're forgetting my prohibition against posting except when you agree with me. I just don't understand you sometimes. (...) There's a difference, I think, between ignoring anonymous (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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