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Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You?
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Wed, 8 Oct 2003 17:20:10 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote:
   In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote:


   This strikes me as weird. It’s as if one is able to physically hedge their vote. If one votes for “no” recall, how is it that one is able to cast a hypothetical vote?

What does voting “no” have to do with it? What are you trying to say - only those who vote “yes” get to vote for the replacement, or do you really like to see another $40 million spent on a second election to resolve the recall if it is a “yes”? Either option makes utterly no sense to me. There is no vote for governor until the current one is actually recalled, so no matter if you vote yes or no, your vote for a new governor is hypothetical.

I am all in favor of saving the $$$. It makes a little more sense to say “yes, recall him, and replace him with X”, than to say “no, do not recall him, but in the event he gets recalled, replace him with X”. Maybe it is because it appears that if you vote “no”, it is as if you are voting for 2 different people, because a “no” vote is in essence a vote for Davis. I dunno. It’s just a little weird, and I’d bet some enterprising lawyers might think so as well (but not my LEGO collection this time;-)

Alright, let’s run this the other way. Another recall happens, only this time it is Arnie. 51% vote yes. 49% vote no. So, in fact, only 51% get to determine who the new governor is. And you can bet that most of that 49% who don’t get to vote are Republican.

A no vote is not a vote “for” Davis: he is already in office and it is NOT election time. There is no election until he is recalled and the office is therefore vacant. Only then is an election valid. It is simply subsumed into a single ballot. If it helps, consider them two seperate votes on two separate days. Vote 1: Davis, recalled or not? Vote 2: vote for a new governor.



  

(snip blockbuster plot)
  
With wonder and amazement on his face, Arnold shouts in terror, “No! Not Willie Brown!” Willie says, “Y’all started this recall nonsense to get me out as Speaker of the legislature, now I’m finishing it!” He pushes Arnold over the brink. A wailing cry drifts up, “Precioussssssssssssssss! Oh, and I’ll be ba...” Splat! Roll credits.

It could only happen in Hollywood! :-)

I don’t know what you do for a living, -->Bruce<--, but if it’s not screen writing, you’ve missed your calling! :-)


I use to write silliness like that all the time for an endless Diplomacy variant. For some idea of the flavor of that, go here: http://www.costik.com/slobbovia.html , alas, the original illustrations, done by me, do not appear.

I suppose, technically, I have written several Star Trek episodes - approved by Paramount, though for the computer. Alas, I did not have time to try and get the following “blooper” reel segment included (easy to do, hard to get approval for). So here, for the first time, the lost blooper outtake...

(Kirk and Spock walk into sight at a cooridor intersection. Kirk, looking agitated, whispers in Spocks ear).

Spock (raising eyebrow): Down the corridor on the left, Captain.

(Kirk walks down the corridor, picking up speed as he goes. The door squeeks open and close and we are left with the view of the door. Pause. Humming, sounds of pages turning then the handle being depressed. No flush sound. Sounds of repeated attempts. Pause, then...)

Kirk (muffled somewhat from behind door): Oh for heaven’s sake... (Sound of communicator being flipped open)...Scotty, I have a problem here in the, ahhhhh, Little Captain’s Room.

Scotty (with usual faint static): You’ve gotta problem, Cap’n? Och, the warp drive engines are overloaded, the Klingons are busting down the doors, and tribbles have gotten into the plumbing an everything is backing oop!

Kirk: Tribbles in the plumbing...Scotty, I need more power down here.

(slight pause as Scotty considers the problem)

Scotty: Have ye tried jiggling the handle?

Kirk (exasperated): Yes! I need more POWER!

Scotty: I canna guarentee wha’ll happen, Cap’n...(typical Star Trek control switch sounds buzzing and beeping indicating Scotty’s compliance)

(rumbling sounds that build to a liquid explosion, optional effluvia squiting through seams of the door)

Kirk: Scotty, beam me outta here!


Trekkies love cliches.

-->Bruce<--



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(...) I am all in favor of saving the $$$. It makes a little more sense to say "yes, recall him, and replace him with X", than to say "no, do not recall him, but in the event he gets recalled, replace him with X". Maybe it is because it appears that (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)

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