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| | | I just got my "I Voted" sticker. Well, my vote has been made and I'll pass them along. I would like to hear from the rest of LUGNET's Californians. Recall- YES. Replace with- "The Terminator" Prop 53- YES Prop 54- NO Prop 53 and 54 didn't get all (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | (...) Out of curiosity, what led you to conclude that Arnold was the best qualified candidate to head the world's fifth-largest economy? (...) One reason is that this is a potential violation of voter privacy. Another reason was that this courteous (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | | (...) Whoops! That should be 2000, instead of 2002. What the heck was I thinking? Dave! (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —David Koudys
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| | | | | | | | | (...) Wishful thinking--only 1 year with Dubya instead of 3... Dave K (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | | (...) "you've seen one stolen election, you've seen them all" ??? I dunno, that was just a guess (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Adrian Egli
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| | | | | | (...) Instinct. It's worked many times for me before. Ok, before you hit me with a "Get real!" remark I was just plain sick of the usual politicians. I just wanted to try someone else. (...) I was shown the blank side and so was the guy who asked me (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. God knows why! —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | The point to the slight subject change is that one minute into the counting, the networks are already declaring that everything is decided. God, I despise network news: Don't touch that dial - we are gonna skip the story and tell you the (projected, (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | | (...) Gee, that's a fairly pathetic rationale in my view. Is that the way you keep track of your bank account -- instinct? Arnold is worse than business as usual. He is a puppet backed all the way from D.C. to Enron. Didn't you know? Always follow (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Adrian Egli
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| | | | | | | | (...) I'll just take that as a scarcasm. (...) Hold on there as second! I was watching Hardball on MSNBC last night and people on the show brought up some very important points. One that caught my attention was IF there was a run off between (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) I had a pain in my chest, and I was sick of all the usual doctors telling me that it was lung cancer, so I went with my instinct and consulted a wealthy actor rather than someone with experience in treating my ailment. I just wanted to try (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Adrian Egli
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| | | | | | (...) I'll just take that as another sacarasm. (...) Again, I'm going to note Hardball on MSNBC. Arnorld has something no one else up there showed- charasima! If there is one thing I have seen all so often in this life (I was one of those teens who (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) You've misinterpreted my intent, so I'll restate it: I find your choice "to try someone else" to be insufficient cause for an informed citizen to cast a ballot for one canditate in preference to another. Would you care to elaborate on your (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Adrian Egli
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| | | | | | (...) "Absolute unknown" can take on a lot of possibilities. If you mean unknown to the public in general then Arnold not an "absolute unknown". I have my sample ballot in front of me right now and am going down the list to see which names I (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | (...) Absolute political unknown. I had presumed that you would be able to identify the term within the context of the discussion, but I see that I am in error. You dismissed a range of other candidates just because you didn't know their names. This (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Honestly, I dismissed most of them for pretty much the same reason - I didn't know their name simply because they were not seriously running for governor. And let's add to that I dismissed the names that were similiar to better known people (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Dave Schuler
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| | | | | | In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd wrote: Once again, you're forgetting my prohibition against posting except when you agree with me. I just don't understand you sometimes. (...) There's a difference, I think, between ignoring anonymous (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) We are the chorus, and we agree, we agree, we agree, we agree - Bored of the Rings (...) No, we dismiss the anonymous simply because they are anonymous. I don't have a clue as to who they are. I at least knew beforehand who Arnold was, I could (...) (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | (...) Recall: no. Misuse of the recall procedure. Replace with: Peter Camejo (Green Party, No. 65 on the ballot) 53: No 54: No (...) No substance, all style. Doubt me? Look at how you refer to Arnold. :-) Here's my summation of Things to Come: (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) This strikes me as weird. It's as if one is able to physically hedge their vote. If one votes for "no" recall, how is it that one is able to cast a hypothetical vote? (...) Hmmm... It has intringe, sex, betrayal, sex, gambling, sex, sex, (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) What does voting "no" have to do with it? What are you trying to say - only those who vote "yes" get to vote for the replacement, or do you really like to see another $40 million spent on a second election to resolve the recall if it is a (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) I am all in favor of saving the $$$. It makes a little more sense to say "yes, recall him, and replace him with X", than to say "no, do not recall him, but in the event he gets recalled, replace him with X". Maybe it is because it appears that (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Alright, let's run this the other way. Another recall happens, only this time it is Arnie. 51% vote yes. 49% vote no. So, in fact, only 51% get to determine who the new governor is. And you can bet that most of that 49% who don't get to vote (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Maggie Cambron
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| | | | | (...) 53 - NO 54 - NO Recall - NO Replacement - Peter Camejo, that Green Bionicle lover Hanging chads - NO, first time I ever bothered to check "I Voted" sticker - NO I had headed out to the polls feeling kinda disenfranchised-- no one ever pleaded (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | (...) Green Bionicle is "underloved" (1), I hear, so yaay for Peter I guess. 1 - There are always 6 different figures in each of the waves, and each one is a different color... Supposedly Red always sells out first (across all the lines so far, (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —John Neal
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| | | | | | (...) I guess Kermit was correct after all-- it's not easy being green! And somebody should forward that data to UPS;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | (...) Me too. Recall: Yes Replacement: McClintock -- this election is all about the state economy and he's the only one who has had direct answers to every question about the economy. 53: No. Dumb idea. This would just further tie the hands of any (...) (21 years ago, 7-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Scott Costello
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| | | | | Recall - Oh heck YES Replace with - The govenator Prop 53 - Yes Prop 54 - Yes as I type this post Davis is conceding this election, score one for the good guys! and shame on you LA Times, your slime campaign failed. I just wanted to post on prop 54, (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Larry Pieniazek
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| | | | | | | Dear California: You have my sincere sympathy (but then, you would have had that no matter who "won", just about)... (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | (...) Arnold admits to some of the charges and is a "good" guy and is "slimed"? How can he be slimed if he issues an apology, and a weak, vague one at that? Sounds more like it's the Times that is being slimed. (...) This really has nothing to do (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Hietbrink
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| | | | | | (...) Bruce, 4 things: 1. The LA Times devoted 3 reporters for 7 weeks to investigate the character of one of the candidates, while ignoring any character issues on the other candidates. Gray Davis, for instance, is said to have a bad temper and has (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Bruce Schlickbernd
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| | | | | | | (...) Okay, answer me this - would you assign 3 reporters to investigate bad temper when everyone involved is in one spot, or 3 reporters to investigate alleged criminal transgressions with the witnesses scattered about? Which is newsworthy? Davis (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Richard Marchetti
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| | | | | | (...) Character flaws? If true, the actions described are generally in the way of sexual assault. I might have a bad temper -- yeah, that's bad. But if I grope your wife, daughter, brother, son, or even you -- I've probably committed a crime! (...) (...) (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Tim David
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| | | | | | I think its all very funny but then I don't live in CA Tim (21 years ago, 9-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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| | | | | Re: This Californian Has Voted. Have You? —Matthew Hamand
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| | | | Recall - NO Replace - Badi Badiozamani (Local man, went to school with his daughter.) Prop 53 - NO Prop 54 - NO Matt (21 years ago, 8-Oct-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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