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The beginning of the end of NATO?
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Wed, 12 Feb 2003 05:10:00 GMT
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This is awesome news... not only might this little war we're about to have
finish up the UN as an active force, it might well do in NATO too.
From the text of a speech by Senator John McCain (R., Ariz.) on February 8,
2003, at the Munich Conference on Security Policy before European Parliament
and defense ministers: (available here, among other places:
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-mccain021103.asp)
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Iraq is the test that will determine whether the United States and Europe
can rely on the founding charters of NATO and the U.N. Security Council to
protect their most fundamental security interests--or whether we have
entered an age in which security is pursued by other means. Should great
powers determine that multilateral institutions such as NATO and the
Security Council cannot protect their interests when they are imperiled,
countries will increasingly be tempted to go it alone rather than relying on
international institutions that shrink from their mission of upholding
international security. The United States might succeed in such an
environment, though I hate to contemplate it, but many nations, including
many in Europe, will not.
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He's right. The US is now that much closer to dismissing NATO as something
to care about.
Just as I predicted earlier in this very forum, the leaders of France and
Germany are going to let Turkey get attacked by Iraq just to spite the US
rather than work within NATO to take precautions, even when explicitly asked
by Turkey for aid. Apparently Turkey's invocation of Article IV of the NATO
charter isn't up to France's dainty standards?
Let's pull our troops out of Germany and base them where they're more welcome.
Or, better, bring them home.
++Lar
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Message has 6 Replies:
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| (...) It could be argued that NATO and the UN are gaining respect in the international community for failing the follow Bush's line. Indeed, it is notable that a large proportion of the public internationally will only support a war which has UN (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
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| "Larry Pieniazek" <lpieniazek@mercator.com> wrote in message news:HA6Joo.M94@lugnet.com... (...) 8, (...) Parliament (...) on (...) asked (...) NATO (...) welcome. (...) This is how it worked when I was a little kid and wanted some icecream: Ask (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
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| In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Oh please do! And while you're withdrawing your troops from non-US countries, please remove your diplomats, your meddling, and your arms sales from any country that is not yours. I (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
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| (...) Fomenting a war between Turkay and Iraq and then demanding that everyone aid in the war that they opposed being started in the first place will not be a feather in Bush's cap. All he will do is drive a wedge between us and the rest of NATO, (...) (22 years ago, 12-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
| | | Re: The beginning of the end of NATO?
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| It has most likely been mentioned here before, but I'm too lazy to read thru all messages in this thread. NATO was made to stop Soviet Communism to take over the whole planet. That was a good thing, very easy to unite to. Now that the Soviet empire (...) (22 years ago, 17-Feb-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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