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Subject:	Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
Newsgroups:	lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date:	Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:39:34 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes: > So you think I'm less free as I don't/can't have a gun, even though I would > feel less free if I did have one? I’d rather have real freedoms than > theoretical ones! I said nothing about guns in specific. Nor does this address what I said: you can give up a freedom for security. Okay, this is what you have done: you can't carry a gun, but you feel more secure because of it. You'd rather have the security of not having to worry about guns. That's okay. I'm not trying to debate whether that is the correct decision. But you have given up a real freedom (of debatable value, but a *real* one) for something that is better defined as a security, and not a freedom. Bruce

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		Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
(...) Hmm. I see your point. Secure means this: "able to avoid being harmed by any risk, danger or threat" Simply, free means this "not limited or controlled". I think the UK being "gun free", gives me both. I suppose another freedom I have lost (...) (23 years ago, 17-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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		Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
(...) I said it was a caricature in the message you replied to(!) :) (...) I would say "free", but try to talk me round if you want! (...) So you think I'm less free as I don't/can't have a gun, even though I would feel less free if I did have one? (...) (23 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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