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Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
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Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:22:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > My comment was caricature.
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> My point exactly, if not directly stated.
I said it was a caricature in the message you replied to(!) :)
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> > I would say "free", but try to talk be round if you want!
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> A bit garbled - I'm not quite sure what you are saying here. Sorry. But I
> think I address what you are trying to say below.
I would say "free", but try to talk me round if you want!
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> > They are freedoms to me... perhaps it is my culture.
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> No, it's not you culture. The people of Chicago often noted that they felt
> more secure with Mayor Daley even though the gave up freedoms for it (not
> sure they thought about it in those terms, however). You pay your money,
> you take your choice, of course, but you need to be careful about being
> honest with yourself. I acknowledge that I am giving up a freedom in paying
> taxes (I think it can work out in my favor, but a Libertarian would
> disagree). The point being, though, I'm aware of the trade-off.
So you think I'm less free as I don't/can't have a gun, even though I would
feel less free if I did have one? Id rather have real freedoms than
theoretical ones!
Scott A
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> Bruce
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