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Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
Date: 
Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:22:05 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> 
> > My comment was caricature.
> 
> My point exactly, if not directly stated.

I said it was a caricature in the message you replied to(!) :)

> 
> 
> > I would say "free", but try to talk be round if you want!
> 
> A bit garbled - I'm not quite sure what you are saying here.  Sorry.  But I
> think I address what you are trying to say below.

I would say "free", but try to talk me round if you want!

> 
> 
> > They are freedoms to me... perhaps it is my culture.
> 
> No, it's not you culture.  The people of Chicago often noted that they felt
> more secure with Mayor Daley even though the gave up freedoms for it (not
> sure they thought about it in those terms, however).  You pay your money,
> you take your choice, of course, but you need to be careful about being
> honest with yourself.  I acknowledge that I am giving up a freedom in paying
> taxes (I think it can work out in my favor, but a Libertarian would
> disagree).  The point being, though, I'm aware of the trade-off.

So you think I'm less free as I don't/can't have a gun, even though I would
feel less free if I did have one? I’d rather have real freedoms than
theoretical ones!

Scott A

> 
> Bruce



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  Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
 
(...) I said nothing about guns in specific. Nor does this address what I said: you can give up a freedom for security. Okay, this is what you have done: you can't carry a gun, but you feel more secure because of it. You'd rather have the security (...) (25 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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  Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
 
(...) My point exactly, if not directly stated. (...) A bit garbled - I'm not quite sure what you are saying here. Sorry. But I think I address what you are trying to say below. (...) No, it's not you culture. The people of Chicago often noted that (...) (25 years ago, 16-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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