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Subject: 
"Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
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Date: 
Fri, 12 Oct 2001 15:45:45 GMT
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In: http://news.lugnet.com/off-topic/debate/?n=13712

Scott Arthur derides the US constitution with these words:

It means that we have a legal framework which reflects the way
we live today. We are not held ransom by a bunch of politically
appointed lawyers arguing over semantics based on a centuries
old piece of paper.

Well that "centuries old piece of paper" (parchment, actually) has kept us
free, despite his scorn for it.

Freer than he is, in fact, although he'll never admit it.

He prefers to be ruled by fiats and regulations often developed and imposed,
without specific debate, by ministers who serve a government elected by a
bare majority (or less if it is a coalition) and protected by empty
assurances of rights rather than by principles that take a lot MORE than a
bare majority to overturn, because they are Constitutional Amendments.

Here's an op ed piece I found rather touching.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20011011.html

Read it.

... and think about what it says before you (collective you, I mean any of
you, not just Scott) slur those who are true to its principles even if they
oppose the whim of the moment, or slur those who would take up arms to
defend it, here OR abroad, or slur those who think we do live in the best
and most free country in the world and are proud enough to say so.

I know who my friends are. And who they are not.



Message has 4 Replies:
  Re: "Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
 
(...) I see. (...) Do you agree with my words? lol. You make it sound like I've been trying to burn the thing since it was penned! (...) Tell that to the communists and Japanese Americans who per periscuted in the name of freedom in your fair land. (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: "Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
 
In a whispered tone : {Pst – A quiet word in your ear. Be careful Larry. With all this fuss and noise people might think you have something to hide. They might think you are trying to hide that fact that you are failing to answer my points and that (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: "Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
 
(...) Larry: I'm glad that you spoke to Scott's comments. As soon as I read them yesterday, I tried to draft a reply that wasn't full of anger, but realized that I couldn't at the time, so I dropped it. I suppose that the jist of my reply to his (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
  Re: "Centuries old piece of paper" still pretty darn good
 
(...) Yeh, I can't get with that scorn. It's not like the British legal system is some paragon of virtue and morality--tort law alone does not the entire US justice system make! (...) <ramble> There *is* a culture-specific reason why the (...) (23 years ago, 12-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)

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