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Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
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Mon, 15 Oct 2001 15:49:53 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
> Then perhaps you do not understand that the document is holding you hostage
> to reason and change.
That's a ridiculous statement. And it is so poorly supported by any
meaningful argument as to be pointless to debate the matter.
> The fact remains that (as I understand it) GWB can erode your rights with
> only 25% of the vote.
No, that would be false. GWB might wish to errode my rights, but that would
be what is so great about our system of govt. (at least ideally) inasmuch
that he can't actually accomplish such a goal long-term. What can you
possibly be talking about, BTW?
And I said "ideally" because I am not sure any govt. actually runs in the
precise manner in which it was envisioned. We have social contracts that
are in a state of flux -- half planned, half expedient. I doubt you can any
more easily defend the govt. under which you live than can we in the U.S.,
but it doesn't much interest me to put the matter to a test because of the
time involved in making an obvious point.
> It is not 100% relevant, but I did enjoy this:
> http://news6.thdo.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/letter_from_america/newsid_72000/72371.stm
Cooke's nonsense is just that. Our Constitutional govt. is not perfect, but
it is easily the match of any other democratic govt. in the world today --
and far better than most. This talk about enumerated rights vs. unenumerated
rights is pointless in light of the fact that we also have the 9th
Amendment, which reads: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain
rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the
people." This was popped into place to appease the Anti-Federalists if I
recall rightly. I expect it should be enough to satisfy you as well, Scott.
BTW, Appeals to authority only work when the authority cited makes sense.
As someone essentially disinterested in the ongoing Scott and Larry show I'd
just like to point out that, and this despite the fact that I occasionally
agree with some of what you have to say, the overall tenor of your many
posts is usually on the order of a briefly written troll. Trolls that
others occasionally fall victim to answering (::sigh::). I suspect deep
down you are better than this, and I appeal to that side of you to be the
author of future posts.
-- Hop-Frog
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| (...) I have made this point before: (URL) (...) Then perhaps you do not understand that the document is holding you hostage to reason and change. The gun debate is a good example of that. The fact remains that (as I understand it) GWB can erode (...) (23 years ago, 15-Oct-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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