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Re: "The Constitution is what the judges say it is"
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lugnet.off-topic.debate
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Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:54:36 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Bruce Schlickbernd writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Scott Arthur writes:
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> > The problem with your system is the huge inequalities in your country.
> > Political power is bought and sold like cheese at a cheesemongers.
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> Money is a form of power. You have more money, you have more power. I'm
> not talking about the United States, mind you, I'm talking about the world
> at large throughout history. I'll grant you it's pretty blatant here.
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> > People keep guns to protect themselves from their *own* government.
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> No, that's not really accurate - it's so they can re-establish their own
> government if the current government thinks it rules of its own accord
> rather than with the consent of the governed.
My comment was caricature.
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> > Your healthcare
> > system is derided across the developed world. These are all caricatures I
> > know, but these are very real criticism of your "system". They are the
> > reason that I would feel less free in the USA.
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> Lindsay answered about the health care system in Europe in general, so I'll
> ask instead if all your notes above mean you less *free* or less *secure*?
> I can see reasons for claiming the latter, but not the former.
I would say "free", but try to talk be round if you want!
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> > I feel no need to carry any sort of weapon. I feel no need to have a
> > contingency plan to deal with an armed intruder in my own home. I feel no
> > need to teach my kids "respect" for guns. What about those freedoms Richard?
> > Does the US system allow you them?
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> Bluntly put, these aren't "freedoms". Enumerating them as such is diluting
> the concept.
They are freedoms to me... perhaps it is my culture.
Scott A
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> Bruce
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