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Re: boulders on shoulders
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Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:01:32 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Duane Hess writes:
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> > It may not be that it *isn't* convincing, or viable. It may just be that
> > women and minorities are too busy fighting other fires to participate. How
> > many times does that need to be clarified?
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> Once would be plenty for me, if that were the case. Are you asserting
> that the LP's ranks would swell with women and minorities if day-to-day
> activities could somehow be handled for them? I doubt that's your intent,
> but your phrasing in the above quote suggests exactly that.
That's not my intent at all. I'm sure we all could find other things to do
with our time if much of our resposibility were removed.
> Further, this
> implies, unintentionally perhaps, that women and minorities (but not,
> presumably, white middle class men) are so caught up in their day-to-day
> that they can't muster the resources to comprehend what amounts to a quite
> simple economic theory. I find that notion far more offensive than even a
> deliberately oblique reading of Bruce's original post.
Comprehension has nothing to do with it in my mind. I've seen the question
arise about how women and minorities "don't get" or "can't comprehend" a
theory or political standing. That is very offensive. Just because I *can*
get and *can* comprehend a political or economic theory doesn't mean that I
will participate in either activity. I personally feel that I have more
important things to do that try to punch my way through red tape to further
a political agenda. I can only assume that there are women and minorities
out there who feel the same way.
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> > I think Katie just vented some pent-up frustration and unfortunately Bruce's
> > post was the catalyst.
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> Well, I'd like to let Katie speak for herself (and Bruce can likewise
> correct my interpretations of his posts if I am incorrect) but it's odd to
> me that a post from one of the biggest local opponents against
> Libertarianism is singled out as if it were a recruitment poster for the >party.
Point taken. I have been speaking out of turn and inferring quite a bit.
> In addition, Duane, if I've read you correctly you're not exactly a
> staunch supporter of the LP yourself, yet in this thread you're stirring up
> debate by forcing the examination of a non-asserted point. If you're just
> playing devil's advocate, I'd caution you that there are already devils
> a-plenty on both sides of the debate! 8^)
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> Dave!
I have been keeping on top of this thread for a while now. I am not an LP
member, but I do happen to agree with a few things the party supports. My
political standing is more-or-less a mish-mash of views from different
parties which I choose to make known on voting day.
I'm not trying to stir the pot too much (maybe it's to late to make that
statement). I'm just trying to make a point that just because someone
chooses not to act doesn't mean that they were incapable if logically making
the choice in the first place.
-Duane
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| (...) What I don't get is how people can't seem to comprehend that I didn't say that. You went right by my explanation of the whole quote and used the out-of-context quote again. That a mistake was made is okay, but the same one over and over? I (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) By her own assertion, though, she "was trying to respond to the "a failing on minorities and women to understand the Libertarian message."" She's responding to a point that wasn't being asserted; in effect, she's having an argument with an (...) (23 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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