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Re: boulders on shoulders
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Tue, 19 Jun 2001 17:54:48 GMT
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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Katie Dokken writes:
> In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler writes:
> > Katie, at the risk of enflaming your obvious passion on this issue, have
> > you been reading Bruce's clarifications (and/or mine) of Bruce's original
> > point?
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> At the risk of starting another thread, I have been reading the posts, but this
> whole new thing of reading a post, responding, then going and downloading my
> email, pulling up the emailed link for the posting, clicking on the button to
> post the response, and then coming back to Lugnet to figure out just where you
> were in the whole thread thing, is really getting old fast. I did originally
> respond to the first post but it didn't go through. Maybe its still stuck in
> my email, I have no idea.
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> > He's several times rephrased the original post, but it seems that
> > you're irritated at a misreading of his message. Bruce did not say that
> > women and minorities don't get the LP message. He's saying (and has said
> > numerous times) that women and minorities *do* get the LP message, but they
> > don't think it's convincing or viable.
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> And I disagree. I do get the message and I may or may not agree with some or
> all of it, and my "lack" of participation in the LP has nothing to do with
> whether or not I agree with the message or think that its "convincing or
> viable". I'm not involved in any party at all. I know some people say that
> its every citizens duty to be involved in their government but many of us
> aren't, though I do vote. And unless Bruce is a woman or a minority, just how
> can he presume to know how "we" feel about it?
I meant it as something of a joke, but I see I was correct: that ain't a
chip on your shoulder, it's a boulder!
If you are a Libertarian who can't be bothered, that's a personal problem of
yours. If you are saying there are hordes of Libertarian women who can't be
bothered, that sounds like a lame excuse in light of the Republican,
Democratic, Green, and other parties ability to get women registered. If
you have some other point to make about it - what does what I had to say
have to do with it? You weren't running on about conditions in general -
your comments were very specifically aimed at me.
As to your earlier point that I was somehow complaining about the lack of
women in the Libertarian Party, that was merely an observation, not a
complaint. You misinterpreted and seem to have taken it as a personal
affront. As to understanding how a group feels even if you aren't one of
them - gosh, all you have to do is ask and listen a bit! Not everyone does,
and not everyone lives in such a diverse area as I do even if they have the
desire.
Bruce
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| (...) Applause.wav Clap, clap, clap, excellent performance. In one posting, you've relegated me as nothing more than a person with personal problems. Excellent comeback! I can see there is no point in debating anything with you. You obviously know (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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| (...) At the risk of starting another thread, I have been reading the posts, but this whole new thing of reading a post, responding, then going and downloading my email, pulling up the emailed link for the posting, clicking on the button to post the (...) (25 years ago, 19-Jun-01, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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