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  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I had a conversation with fellow rtlTers about this very thing-- "Hey, what if some gay person showed up at our train show?" Who cares? "What if he or she brought a rainbow coloured LEGO brick boxcar to put on the layout?" First of all, that'd (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) It is there if you look. I hate stereotypes, but it is about time this guy came out: (URL) A “construction worker” with white slacks and meticulous moustache? ;) Scott A PS Has anyone done the village people in Lego? (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) I'm guessing an outsider who just wanted to bilk CBS. Or maybe an outsider who thought they could harm Bush. But not a member of any fairly well organized group, or it would have come up that they couldn't hope to pull the forgeries off. (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I happen to not understand why the homosexual AFOLs would want to ghettoize themselves that way either. And I'm not going to cry about it if there's no support for creating such a club. It doesn't affect me particularly. AND, I think it's (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Don't try and turn this into a genophopic issue. Sex is a family-safe topic. The only reason such discussion doesn't belong here is because the owners say so. (...) I'm not willing to reduce myself to the lowest common denominator of thought (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  “family-safe” ? (Re: Lavender Brick Society)
 
(...) John, I have mixed views on this but I'm pretty sure Ed is a nice guy who would not want to offend anyone and he would make sure all his posts fell within the ToS. So before we talk about what is "family-safe", why not cancel your posts which (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Just as a point of interest, this can be easily recreated in lego for your name tag: (URL) And i've seen it at Brickfest the last couple of years. Subtle, and those not in the know probably wouldn't even notice. Troy (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org, FTX)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) Oh please. Don't tell me you actually believe they're real. I know you're just being argumentative. (URL) just agree that Bush most likely did benefit from family influence in the Vietnam era and move on to the interesting stuff. The obviously (...) (20 years ago, 15-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) It isn't. By the same token it isn't *NECESSARY* to discuss religion and how it relates to LEGO, but that occurs pretty much every time Rev Brendan posts an update. I would welcome posts from LGBT AFOLs about their MOCs etc. That said, I see (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.admin.general)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) The evidence is voluminous, but here is the most recent I've seen: ===   By PETE SLOVER / The Dallas Morning News HOUSTON – The former secretary for the Texas Air National Guard colonel who supposedly authored memos critical of President (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) That's worth remembering. I can produce a real-looking pre-1985 dollar bill in Photoshop, but that hardly proves that the next 1984 dollar bill you receive came off of my desktop. After all, the Shroud of Turin can be reproduced with relative (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) Unfortunately I did not realise that link changes day by day. It's changed this afternoon to a new article. The article I was referring to was this one: (URL) for any confusion. Note that midway through the article it has a very nice animated (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) On what basis do you conclude that these documents are forgeries? I remind you that the claims re: non-availability of font-type; non-availability of proportional spacing; and non-availability of super-script have all been thoroughly refuted. (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) (note that my agreement with James is my own opinion and shouldn't be confused with the collective opinion of any groups I represent or am part of) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I really don't think Teddy was asking for a group in which to hold explicit sexual discussion. Of course outside interests have an impact on what you do with your LEGO hobby. I imagine most of the train guys are fans of real trains. I build a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.org)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Agreed 100%. -Tim (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) Somebody has it in for Dan Rather and CBS. The documents are clearly forgeries meant to make DR and CBS look silly. They have been had, and how! Now, here is the problem: if CBS admits the docs are fake, they will be ethically bound to reveal (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
(...) They're clearly forgeries, but the fun part now is developing the best conspiracy theory. I don't think your MS-IBM conspiracy is gonna work, but there are plenty of other whoppers to choose from. They have some nifty samples here. (URL) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I think the point was that why should sexual orientation of any kind be a topic on a LEGO hobby site such as LUGNET. I believe it's the love of LEGO that has brought us together on here, beyond that I don't think we need to single out folks (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Don't try and turn this into a homophobic issue. Topics WRT to sex are inappropriate for a family-safe site like LUGNET (save off-topic.debate) (...) You can respect the desires of some parents who don't wish their children exposed to these (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
Now there's a topic worthy of off-topic.debate! (...) I agree! Parents should feel comfortable, knowing that no topics contained herein will harm their children. It is a very serious shame that many parents are so confused aout right and wrong and (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I'm from the same mind set. LUGNET is about LEGO. Not cooking and LEGO, not water skiing and LEGO. Just LEGO. Why is it necessary to discuss sexual orientation and how it relates to LEGO here on LUGNET? The LUGNET community is a family affair (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) I agree. I've always found the lack of sexual and sexuality topics here on LUGNET (and the LEGO hobby as a whole) refreshing. I get enough of that from the media and other places in my life, it's nice to get a break from it and just enjoy the (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)  
 
  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) Agreed. But can you blame them? They saw what happened to the last revolutionaries (post Gulf War I) that were egged on by Bush Senior, then left twisting in the wind. You can say they should have tried again, and you'd be probably right, but (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Microsoft and IBM in secret plot?
 
Well that's a crazy headline isn't it... but no crazier than some in the regular media I'm surprised to see no mention yet here of "rathergate" as it is being called in the blogosphere. Were the memos about Bush's service that CBS 60 minutes ran a (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) Sure. They chose not to overthrow Hussein and install a proper rule-of-law system. Isn't that the same thing? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) As this is directly topical for LUGNET discussion, and there's not even anything to debate, it doesn't belong in .off-topic.debate. Right? And if you do start a club, wouldn't it fall under the .org. hierarchy? Chris (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
 
  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) Bush would never upset his friends. (...) Well a certain "mordern country" is assiting human rights abuses in countries like Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, Yemen & Pakistan whilst breaking internatioanl law itself. What does that have to do with (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
Hi teddy, I have absolutely no problems with me being gay in this community. But I'd love to be a Lavender Brickette :-) Since I'm in the Netherlands, I don't have any issues with acceptance or something, but it would be nice to exchange thoughts (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Personally I don't see the reason to start labelling people into groups such as this, I can't see why just everyone regardless of who they are, where they are from and what they look like can't just do the same as everyone else, why does (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org)
 
  Re: Lavender Brick Society
 
(...) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does sexual preference have to do with building with Lego? I always saw it as a fairly asexual enterprise. Am I missing a whole field of exploration here? Allister (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Lavender Brick Society
 
I've been kicking an idea around for a while, and I wanted to put it out to the community: I'd like to start an organization for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgendered (LGBT) AFOLs. A lavender brick society, if you like. It's seemed to me that (...) (20 years ago, 14-Sep-04, to lugnet.admin.suggestions, lugnet.fun.community, lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.people, lugnet.org) !! 
 
  Putin and Bush... more alike than different?
 
(URL) to me how eliminating direct popular election of governors and Duma members will help fight terror? One part Putin has right: "The Russian president said that terrorism is rooted in the low living standards in the North Caucasus, in widespread (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
(...) How so? (And I ask this sincerely!) (...) My spider-sense tells me that this is an attempt to trick me into formulating an ontological argument for God's existence, but I'll give it a try anyway. First of all, I'm not sure that I would worship (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: God and worth (was re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred)
 
(...) Only if you choose to define it that way. I used to work with a Christian who said something like "if emotions are just chemical reactions, aren't they meaningless?" Well, sure. Insofar as I attach no truly transcendent, metaphysical "meaning" (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Help me with the math
 
(...) Bruce gave a good refutation of this, and in any case the buck doesn't stop with everyone else--it stops with Dubya. If he endorsed the intelligence report, then he, as the highest link in the chain, bears primary responsibility for the (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
(...) Actually, I think the current situation with regard to a rea/ideal god does exist. I don't bother him and he doesn't bother me. But if I were to answer: He would show himself. He would provide a quid pro quo deal that I can understand. He (...) (20 years ago, 13-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal wrote: [snip] Excuse the paraphrase, but did you just say something like, "Life without Allah is worthless." On Septermber 11th? Wow. (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
(...) And for a Christian to (URL) mock or criticize non-believers by calling their lives worthless>, I would have to question motives. Get down off your high horse, please John. ROSCO (20 years ago, 12-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: The Brick Testament: A Family Stoned and a City Massacred
 
"John" <John@TCLTC.org> wrote in message news:I3tB8E.L00@lugnet.com... (...) So if the motive for criticizing or poking fun at the Bible could *possibly* be traced to intolerance or bigotry then it is immoral? It doesn't seem to me that The Brick (...) (20 years ago, 11-Sep-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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