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In lugnet.off-topic.debate, David Koudys wrote: [Speaking of Dubya, David said:] (...) Couldn't have said it better myself :-) Now, if only half the USA could understand that... Kerry would win it easy... Oh well, It's a shame USA is a democracy. (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) And we now loop back to: Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists... (...) I must disagree - conservatives want to control others lives and make sure that they conform to their own personal life (i.e. they want their (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I didn't say I took personal offense to it. (...) What an odd thing to say. What is "free of American influence"? Nothing. Are you claiming that there are those in this world that want to eschew all the influence of the US? Think what that (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) St Ronnie was not the sharpest stick in the pile when elected! (...) Do you reject the Balfour declaration which sought the “establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people”? (...) I've heard disturbing ideas from both both (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) OK. Tell me what has changed over the last month! (...) What does low inflation & low interest rates signify? Clue: Take a look at the Japanese economy. (...) If real interest rates are the lowest for 30 years, what is the incentive for me to (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) John, Given your blind support for Bush, would you say (URL) this> is freedom? Given your blind support for Israel, would you say (URL) this> is freedom? (I would have thought that a nuclear deterrent was useless if one’s enemies did not know (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) ROFLMAO :-) Truer words were never spoke! -->Bruce<-- (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) It wasn't personal. (...) Ah, but then in the interests of diversity and multiculturalism, do we have a responsibility to allow them to be as they are (killing, oppressing, etc), or should we enlighten them (eg liberate and teach democracy and (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ever done any reading on Carter's cronies? (...) Making light of a man battling Alzheimer's Disease? Too off-color for me. (...) (snip) (...) What the heck is "historic Palestine"? This leads me to think about some disturbing ideas I have (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The choice is to accept God or not. I'm sure that dwelling with God is as wonderful as dwelling without God is miserable. (...) Freedom of religion doesn't mean "freedom from religion". But let me ask you: do we have an obligation to assist (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) When Monty Python was funny, they were absolutely hilarious. I have many of their sketches partially committed to memory. A lot of their stuff was not very humorous to me at all. This seems to be one of those times;-) But it's nice to see the (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) That is old news with outdated figures. And BTW, that reminds me. Seen our rate of inflation lately? I am a small business owner, and for me, this is the best economy I have experienced since I started paying taxes some 30 years ago. It has (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I neglected to add (URL) this link>. Scott A (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I’m not Monty Python’s biggest fan, but I did enjoy (URL) Terry Jones’s take on Bush>. (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ever thought about why interest rates are so low? Scott A (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) As an aside, I loved (URL) this quote> about your alleged president: For years it has been my belief that the ideal US president for Middle East peace would be one who had the ethics of a Carter, the popularity of a Reagan and the strategic (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Must be tiring to spend so much time being offended. Nevertheless, unthinkable as it may be, there are those that value among their freedom oriented aspirations to be 'free of American influence'. So highly in fact, that they would be prepared (...) (20 years ago, 20-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Perhaps this is a matter of semantics. Under what I understand of your faith, you are "free" to to worship God or to condemn yourself to eternal damnation, but that's like saying "you're free to eat this ice cream cone or to hit yourself on (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Ummmmm, are these comments directed at me or as a general statement? To answer it as a general statement, it is a religious (or cultutal) thing, not a racist thing. Generally speaking, religious fanatics don't want to be free, or at least (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) But it is my choice to limit myself, and frankly, to advocate complete freedom without responsibility is to be an Anarchist, not a freedom-lover. (...) I'm not sure what you mean here. Freedom is freedom. What is Bush's vision that differs (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The dead in Iraq won't be given that chance... Do you seriously think Bush will giver power to anyone who upsets his little apple cart? Don’t be a fool, Bush wants Bases & Oil; not freedom for Iraq! (...) (URL) Many do:> Consider the explosion (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Maybe, or maybe not. In terms of religion and faith, you yourself are far less free than I am--wouldn't you want to be free in the first place? And in any case, why must the American Vision of Freedom be the universal solution for everyone? (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I think it is a bit offensive and even racist to believe that any human being wouldn't want to be free if truly given the chance. (...) What gives? Isn't that the very mantra of regulating Liberals? (...) He supports the will of the people who (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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Again? That would require that we voted for him the first time. -->bruce<-- (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) Well, heck, those wacky Iraqis might vote for Islamic extremists - an eventuality that the Guy Not Elected by "Yankees" did not even consider. Gotta save them from themselves, don't you know. Let's face it, why should Bush support the will of (...) (20 years ago, 19-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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I thought (URL) this> was a great article. Two key sections of text: “Two nights ago, this most dangerous man, George Bush, talked about "freedom in Iraq". Not "democracy" in Iraq. No, "democracy" was no longer mentioned. "Democracy" was simply left (...) (21 years ago, 17-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) NO!, I said it would be a start. Israel is perfectly entitled to defend itself... nothing more! (URL) this>: "The Israeli occupation army and paramilitary Jewish settlers have killed 545 Palestinian children and minors since the outbreak of (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) So you are suggesting that if Israel stopped any and all violence against the Palestinians, that specific action would then stop Palestinian terror? Naive and wrong. (...) Those borders were pretty much proposed already and were rejected. As (...) (21 years ago, 15-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Perhaps they could start by ending Israeli terror? Then they could return to the '67 borders and compensate refugees. Despite what the Old Testament says, the West Bank does not belong to Israel. Although it would be an injustice to the (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) What specifically do you propose Israel do to end Palestinian terror? What specific options are available? JOHN (no Yankee fan here---Win Twins!) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I agree. His belief that “terrorism” can be stopped by attacking the symptoms whilst (URL) stoking the cause> is very dangerous… and mind-boggling. Scott A (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) To me, the worst part wasn't the press conference, but rather the follow-up reactions from the faithful. CSPAN this morning had a number of callers praising Dubya for his unshaking resolve, while others expressed satisfaction that Dubya had (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) This been in all the local Canadian papers--not really a 'dirty little secret'. The gov't claims that this 'culling' is to help, not to hinder. Yeah, the Canadian gov't helping anyone right now is something I can live without. But who to vote (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) I thought the whole tone was that of fawning sycophancy. A bunch of school kids would have been more probing. (URL) Another perspective>: Bush's demeanor was arrogant and unrepentant. Asked on numerous occasions to name things he would have (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(URL) 1,000,000 unnecessary deaths?> "It is horrible to see the aftermath of this slaughter. There is blood everywhere. Every few feet as you walk across the ice, you pass by large pools of blood and carcasses lined up in open graves. Their eyes (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) The press, at least, asked what I consider to be better questions. They seemed to be slightly apologetic or evasiv about the way they asked them--"There are those who say that.... How would you respond to those critics?" At least the questions (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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You deserve what you get. I have never seen anyone shoot himself in the foot so much than in this press coverage... "When we get this Iraq thing right..." Yeah, we're waiting on that one, Mr. President... And the constant little laughs... this is no (...) (21 years ago, 14-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
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(...) It was not a speech; Blair struggles to find a sympathetic audience in the UK these days. (...) I feel sorry for the troops; there are not enough of them and they have the wrong type of training. I blame Bush, Rumsfeld etc for the alleged (...) (21 years ago, 13-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) Don’t be fooled by this; abandoning Iraq is not the only alternative. Scott A (21 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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(...) If I could stop the murder of Iraqi civilians simply by over-estimating the number of deaths, I would certainly do so. Wouldn't you? Anyway, do you have documentation for your rebuttal of Iraqbodycount's methodology? If you're correct, then (...) (21 years ago, 12-Apr-04, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
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