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  Re: CNN babe speaks out!
 
(...) The bit I like: " Fox News spokeswoman Irena Briganti said of Amanpour's comments: "Given the choice, it's better to be viewed as a foot soldier for Bush than a spokeswoman for al-Qaeda." " So we're still, "If you're not for us (Dubya et al), (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Eh, what's a few dollars amongst friends...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Richard Marchetti wrote: <snip> (...) Can you then explain to me how Watergate happened, which, as far as I can see, was relatively benign in the 'grand scheme of things', got a president kicked out of office, and yet the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Hence I didn't say that the inherent purpose of a gun is to shoot someone. However, the 'usual' purpose of a gun *user* is to shoot at someone, either in an act of "defense" or in an act of crime. Maybe to scare, maybe to intimidate, and maybe (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  CNN babe speaks out!
 
Amanpour: CNN practiced self-censorship (URL) CNN's top war correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, says that the press muzzled itself during the Iraq war. And, she says CNN "was intimidated" by the Bush administration and Fox News, which "put a climate (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) (snipping rest of silly examples) The primary purpose of a gun is to shoot something - the primary purpose of a handgun is to shoot someone. The reason that they were developed in the first place were to shoot someone. The primary purpose of a (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Eh, what's a few dollars amongst friends...
 
(...) The two ideas are not really related. An informed citizenry does not automatically follow just because of the mere existence of civil rights. The existence of civil rights should help one be an informed citizen, but it is in no way a political (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) But a gun's purpose isn't interently to shoot a person; that's an inferential purpose. By extension, the purpose of a pair of scissors is to cut things, therefore I can cut someone's throat with them, so scissors should be banned. A baseball (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Safe at last
 
(URL) Thank goodness!> Dave! (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) And scissors, pencils, and LEGO all have a primary function which has nothing to do with the ending or maiming of a life. What is a gun's *primary* function? As soon as you start realizing you can't sit there and say, "Well, such-n-such can (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) "Insisting" is not a word that I think the NRA would use or want you to use. "Insisting" would means that they back mandatory gun safety courses as a precursor to gun ownership, something I don't believe they back (they want no impediments to (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Eh, what's a few dollars amongst friends...
 
Related-- (URL) Bush escaped an Iraq row ... Why hasn't George Bush encountered the same storm of criticism in the US over his intelligence claims on Iraq as Tony Blair has received in the UK? " " In the end, George Bush did not need the (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Eh, what's a few dollars amongst friends...
 
I think that Al was too lenient when he says "Lies and the Lying Liars who tell Them--A fair and balanced look at the right" Perspective is everything. From the DU website: ((URL) remember when we were going to get Saddam Hussein, find his weapons (...) (21 years ago, 15-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Mike, for maximum effect: "I could be difficult and argue what the definition of is is". All I do is give, JOHN (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) I could be difficult and argue the definition of is*, but I think your logically right. ;-) There are quite a few things that might be responsible for the decrease in crime, like the increased rate of incarceration of criminals for example. I (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) I agree with that. Now I am not an NRA member but one of their biggest "causes" (for lack of a better word) is insisting on responsible owenership. They also support mandatory minimum prison sentances for persons who commit crimes with guns. (...) (21 years ago, 13-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO, Conan O'Brien, TODAY SHOW
 
(...) Probably more time than you imagine. Pulling off a 'spontaneous' event like that can take days of planning. (...) Not quite true. Matt made a comment that a ten year anniversary is tin, and thus the reason for the tin foil sculpture. Someone (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO, Conan O'Brien, TODAY SHOW
 
(...) Hmm... maybe you are right. I didn't see it that way. Anyway, the harsh-ness of my post wasn't toward Eric, but towards Conan, so I hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings here. Whatever is the reason why he didn't appreciate the gifts, I think (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: LEGO, Conan O'Brien, TODAY SHOW
 
(...) I'd have to agree. The whole thing played out rather stiff, with the Today show folks trying to create a wacky, outrageous situation (aping Conan's style?) and failing pretty miserably. Then again, live TV comedy is pretty tough. Anyhow, the (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) As half-a-million legally owned guns are stolen in the USA each year, I'd suggest gun crime is somewhat dependent on lack of gun control legislation. ;) Ownership is one thing; ownership without responsibility is a different kettle of fish. (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Living in fear helps us all become good consumers. Have you never heard of Edward Bernase or his uncle? Scott A “I'm proud to be maladjusted and to which I call upon you to continue to be maladjusted." MLK (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) That's not quite right. Logically, data cannot be used selectively to demonstrate the efficacy of gun control laws. However, it does not logically follow, therefore, that no correlation exists between gun control and gun crime. I happen to (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) I would add to that the media slogan "if it bleeds, it leads" in terms of priority of news coverage. At least one study has demonstrated that murder rates have gone down by something like 18% over some recent period of time, but news coverage (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Did you read what you wrote? (...) So making Hadguns illegal has only caused criminals to use other guns. (What a surprise.) Have you ever heard of the Black Market. Criminals will always have guns. (...) can draw is that both sides are using (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Online, I have no idea. Now in the papers, on the radio, on TV there have been numerous citations of studies which indicate that the crime rate as gone down but the brutality of crimes that do happen has increased, giving the overall (...) (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: LEGO, Conan O'Brien, TODAY SHOW
 
(...) Having watched the entire spot, I would agree with Rick's assessment. If anything, Conan was polite and took it all in comedic stride. Regards, Allan B. (21 years ago, 12-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
If you think that's a proof of madness, then I can top your story: (URL) proves IMO that it is not the plaintiff who is an idiot - it's whomever pays him attention and hasn't got the guts to say no. Pedro (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Dates of New Lego Store openings?
 
(...) Hey, keep your regional fighting in the .loc groups where it belongs - and NOT in the CA group! We don't care about all y'all's lack of technology. Besides, Oakland BBQ rocks any other off the plate! Come out here and try some Everett & Jones (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, lugnet.off-topic.fun, lugnet.market.shopping)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Dave Schuler wrote: <snip> (...) And see, that's the line for me. If a corp. is negligent and that negligence harm, then the corp. should be on the hook. If you are in a drunken stupor, and you, in that intoxicated state, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) So you're saying that anyone who seeks compensation for a dumb action that he himself commits must be a liberal? I suspect that you're kidding, because otherwise you're asserting that no Conservative has ever sought, will ever seek, or would (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) Well, either he's a liberal who genuinely feels he's been victimized, or a new liberal who has been convinced (by a shyster who gets 40% off of the top) that he is owed something somehow. (...) Now, now, not so, Dave! Please don't sit there (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) Not to be stereotypical, but if I hear 'intoxicated man', 'atttempting to use a slip 'n slide' and 'sue for all you can get', my immediate thought is 'college age punk kid who doesn't give a whit about politics or issues' To expound--first, (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) I'd be interested to learn the political leanings of the aforementioned paralyzed drunkard. After all, we know that Conservatives absolutely adore and support actions free of consequence. Dave! (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) With the $$$ from the suit you could open a store called Ick "R" Us:-) (...) No, you don't. (;-) JOHN (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) I'm ready for it :) If I get tarred and feathered, then I could try to fly, and get too close to the sun--the tar'll melt and I'd fall back to earth, spraining an ankle or something--then I could sue the tar manufacturers or the chicken farmer (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Stop the madness...
 
(...) To a liberal. Careful Dave; you might get tarred and feathers by your own with that kind of talk;-) [JOHN] (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Stop the madness...
 
(URL) the part that... well... " Monday's lawsuit mentions one legal action brought by a Wisconsin adult who became paralyzed after diving onto the slide while intoxicated. The plaintiff in that case was awarded $12.3 million in damages, according (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Let's assume that's true. Look back to 10-15 years ago; there were large fluctuations in gun crime in the USA caused by the "shall-issue" laws. So your comparison with Bonnie Scotland is bogus. (...) Are you blind? Read what I said again: (...) (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Citation, please. Dave! (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)
 
  September 11, 2001 Tribute
 
(URL) September 11, 2001 Tribute> (URL) This was done last year and reposted to commemorate the 2nd anniversary. (21 years ago, 11-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)  
 
  Re: Sticking my gun where it doesn't belong...
 
(...) Also from that same post. "I think overall gun crime is rising (perhaps we should ban all guns?), but I doubt you’ll find data that suggest increased gun ownership in the UK would improve things?" Well guess what, the gun crime rate in the (...) (21 years ago, 10-Sep-03, to lugnet.off-topic.debate, FTX)


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