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  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I'm sorry for 'throwing it out there' to begin with... well, no, not actually. I actually liked this thread up until the word 'dingus' appeared (though to be said, the (sic) response was a jab as well--I think we all agreed to leave the (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Slinging names is not the way to keep this debate where it needs to be. Because when you use even a mild one like "Losertarian" you enable ill mannered rabble rousers to do the same (in kind, but far worse in degree). I find the use of the (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Let's keep it in perspective; there has been no "removal of any reference" to the Towers. Last night on Spin City I saw a clear shot of them, and the syndicated Simpsons recently showed the episode in which the family treks to NYC and Homer (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Yeah, Larry--you should join the NRA/Christian Coalition/Enron whore known as the GOP. And John, since you're fond of overlooking reality when it favors your agenda, let's not forget that you can make no true claims of majority. Voter turnout (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
No real arguments here, Scott -- just the reminder that your buddy, Blair seems to enjoy kissing Bush's behind. Of course, I am not saying that you agree with that; just pointing out the obvious deficiencies of your own "leaders" over there. -- (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Right. I'd be happy to see some of those things too, dingus. If you think the war will pay for itself, or be a short easy to pay for war; then you need to reduce your lithium intake. Bush will raise the national debt paying off his (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
Does somebody else feel like giving dingus a brief history of the "Grand Old Party"? I sure don't... -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Great! So our goal is war with Saudi Arabia, right? ...er, wait, what the hell is this business with Iraq again? (...) Figures. -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) There is an easy way to sort that. (...) Why does anyone ever apologize for anything? (...) Is it the judgment you don't like, or the fact that the USA is being judged? Perhaps the French should be denied the right to free speech? Perhaps Bush (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Have you never read the bible John? Was Goliath not MIGHTIER than David? It all depends on how you measure "might". Ghandi demonstrated where the real power lies. He was stronger than the then British Empire. (...) Let me guess, the USA is (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) I thought that the appearences of the WTC in the Spider-man movie were for promotional purposes only and never intended for the final cut? As far as I know there were two promotional scenes, one was a poster of a larger than life spider (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) What, and miss out on such cogent discourse? -John (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) If by "we" you mean the liberal left, than I guess you are correct. -John (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) That was my point. (...) *You* could be in the majority too if you'd pull your head out and join the Republican party to work for getting liberatarian agendas implemented, rather than support the go-nowhere, impotent Losertarian party. You are (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) What fun is that, except to a German after reading your malapropism:-) (...) As in show me a freer country than the US (it's comparative) (...) I doubt any "coruption (sic) from within" will attempt mass murder upon the citizens of the United (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) all (...) Actually I was referring to the removal of any reference of the World Trade Center towers. I was particularly annoyed that the deleted scene of Spiderman capturing a helicopter in a web between the the towers was not included on the (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Are you referring to that stupid campaign to sue Peter Jackson for the name of the second film in the LoTR trilogy? If so, then I'm with you, in that I can't figure it out, either. It was really insensitive of Tolkien to name his books after (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Yikes! Lets just throw in a "Sich heil" for fun too. (...) Freest? What do you mean freest, shouldn't that be simply free. Why are there limitations placed on freedom. Granted as mind bogglingly naive as your rant is, you have the right to (...) (22 years ago, 7-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Well, he can assert that a majority of the estimated 39% of eligible voters chose to vote Republican, and beyond that he's welcome to believe whatever else he likes, of course. But I think he'd come across as less of a stereotypically boorish, (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) John, John -- wake up! You're talking in your sleep and some of us can still hear you... Increasingly we have more in common with socialism and/or communism than we do with a free democratic republic, or hadn't you noticed? THE 10 PLANKS OF (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Your demagoguery and paranoia aside, let's take a wait-and-see attitude rather than engage in pointless inflammatory rhetoeric. I am just so tired of Americans apologizing for the US-- it is mad that I would have anything for which to be sorry (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Well, maybe not as free as you might think... (URL) (who happens to be from the Netjerlands...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Dave, I am just curious, is your perspective that on a non-US citizen? Maybe you made clear where you're from in an earlier post, but in this context I just wasn't sure. Assuming you are from elsewhere, I certainly hope you do not think that (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) I'll help you with the lego :) It's the zealous nationalism which blinds people to fixing the issues. I'm a nationalist--I love being Canadian. As such, I believe in a 'just war' scenario--that is, I would pick up a gun and join the armed (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) None of us is blessed with omniescence, of course, as far as I can tell. And we're all limited by our horizons, and our companions. But I'm on a mountaintop with Thomas Jefferson, while you're down in a hog wallow with John Ashcroft, so I'm (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) In fairness to John, doesn't he have EVERY right to believe his views have been co-signed by the american people? Either by positive act or by apathy, the future has been written. And yes, I do think it may be time to move to a country whose (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
Lemme see, how can I put this in the most polite terms possible? O, I know -- self-censorship! Hey John: Shut the **** up! -- Hop-Frog (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  A word to the international community... (Re: Vote against/for...)
 
(...) Although John may speak for the soon-to-be-installed right-wing overzealous militaristic hegemonic self-righteous theocracy, his wildly nationalistic statements should not be construed as anything like mainstream American thought, but they can (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) The world needs to come to terms with the simple fact that the US *IS MIGHTIER THAN THOU* It's not pretentious, merely fact. Be thankful that the US also happens to be the greatest power ever to have existed on the face of the earth AND shows (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) As far as you know, which isn't far. -John (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Actually, Ken Krawchuk had a not-terrible showing in the PA gubernatorial race, pulling an estimated 6,652 votes versus (Green) Morrill's 4,952, and Krawchuk had at least *some* name recognition leading up to the election. The four main (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Ya "Most", Dave! Was gonna say "all" but hey, you know how it is, Dave! And if you've got a problem with that, you know where to go, Dave! :-) ++Lar (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, John Neal writes: <snip> (...) <snip> (...) How 'bout the US get off it's pretentious 'Mighter than thou so we can do as we please' high horse and smell the roses (or the toxic exhaust fumes from rampant consumerism) (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) "Most?" Dave! (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Since Libertarians didn't sweep to stunning victories in most of their races, I'm not sure I agree. Like I said elsewhere, I fear for the country. Having the House, Senate and White House all controlled by the same party (either one of the (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Vote against/for...
 
(...) Sometimes we have no choice. (...) How about the world showing the US a little respect first. (...) Who would support this? (...) Who wouldn't vote for this? (...) I think America did that. -John (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Conspiracy! (was Re: Shocked, just Shocked etc.)
 
I am just hijacking the thread in service to my own nefarious purposes.... MUAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH...AHAHAHA!!! Anyway, I was reading some Gore Vidal related stuff on the Observer UK site and realized that we must be missing some pretty wild stuff. (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
 
(...) I don't understand why the chief executive officer has any business whatsoever in campaigning for members of the Legislative branch--isn't that a direct conflict of interest? I don't condemn Bush uniquely for this, although he's been a more (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Re: Shocked, just Shocked to learn that .... The Beeb is not always right.
 
In lugnet.off-topic.debate, Larry Pieniazek writes: <snip> (...) Shocked!! Shocked, I say, to find out that there's gambling in this here establishment!! This time, the gambling could escalate into very bad things for my neighbours to the south, as (...) (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)
 
  Party Funding
 
(...) Democracy is a funny thing sometimes. Thankfully we have limits on what parties can spend. Scott A (22 years ago, 6-Nov-02, to lugnet.off-topic.debate)


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