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(...) I recently acquired some Kabaya Ninja sets, as well as other Lego Ninja theme sets...I am sorry Lego discontinued making these sets in the USA, so I am trying to develop original designs from the sets Lego made.. here is the beginning of my (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Hello, My name is John, as you can tell I am a Lego fan since I am a big fan of Lugnet... I am currently working on a Lego Ninja theme fortress and I am in need of inspiration/source material...i would love to see any origial stories or designs from (...) (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) I love the name Muteki! It's perfect -- Doumoarigatou!!! --Todd (25 years ago, 2-Apr-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Chokugeki, (...) Dear Mr.Lehman I want to be excused from putting in a word,because I'm usually interested in a fictitious proper noun. There is little case that usual nouns are independently used for proper noun in Japanese.("hiryuu" (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Hallo all! I'm Japanese LEGO-freak live in Toyko. I'll add one episode(allegory) about King of Samurais Mr.Lamant mentioned. NOBNAGA ODA was the first samurai king who brings all samurais in Japan under his sway. HIDEYOSHI TOYOTOMI was next one. He (...) (25 years ago, 14-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Konnichiwa, Pooru-san. I'll e-mail you when I get ICQ. Hopefully within the next few days. Tabun ashita. Jaa, mata-ne. Yoi shuumatsu-wo (Have a good weekend!). (...) (25 years ago, 13-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Paul Davidson Yuki Sasaki <sasaki@arches.uga.edu> wrote in message news:FpsoBD.LnF@lugnet.com... (...) doko-no (...) the (...) Watashi-wa UNBC*-de benkyoo-wo shite-imasu. Hai, kanji-mo naraimasu. (...) Hai, wakaramisu. (but I need to buy a (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Watashi-wa Joojia-Daigaku-de nihongo-wo oshiete-imasu. Pooru-san-wa doko-no daigaku-de benkyoo-wo shite-imasu-ka? (te-imasu roughly corresponds to the English 'be -ing') Daigaku-de kanji-mo naratte-imasu-ka? Watashi-no nihongo-ga (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) That's an interesting observation. I never thought the sound "mu" could make the words sound less powerful or strong. In the word "muteki", "mu" represents "void" or "nothingness", and it's a strong word/morpheme. But if this word sounds (...) (25 years ago, 12-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Paul Davidson (...) daigaku-de (...) omoshiroi-desu-yo! (...) Hai, tanoshii-desu. Doko-ni o-ashiemasu? (is that correct?) (...) langue (...) le (...) comprends (...) une (...) que (...) Merci beaucoup vos gentils mots. Le japonais, c'est une langue (...) (25 years ago, 11-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Aha! OK! (...) I like it! BTW, does the softer sound of "mu" (as opposed to more plosive phonemes like ka or ga or zu) subtly imply that such a name might be somewhat insidious? -- that is, such that an attacker might not learn Muteki's true (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Oh, for this meaning, we would rather use the three words that follow in the list. You see, dictionaries do not list the frequencies of the uses, so some of the words you see in dictionaries are not even used very much. So, if you name your (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Konnichi-wa. Nihongo-no benkyoo-wa tanoshii-desu-ka? Watashi-wa daigaku-de nihongo-wo oshiete-imasu. Nihongo-wo oshieru-no-wa totemo omoshiroi-desu-yo! (I'm a TA and I teach Japanese classes.) (...) Moi aussi, j'aime bien apprendre des langues (...) (25 years ago, 10-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Is Odanobunaga the guy who held the title spot in the (unwinnable yet damnably engaging) Sega Genesis game "Nobunaga's Ambition"? -Cheese (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) According to JEDI[1], 'tomogui' means "cannibalism (in animals) / mutual destruction / internecine struggle / eating each other / damaging each other." (...) Hmm, not sure exactly how to classify them. Sorta mech, but sorta beast. If you'd (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Here they are, straight from the J.E.D.I. dictionary... [futeki] (an) daring/fearless/intr...bold/tough [futeki] inadequacy/inappropr...mpropriety [futekikaku] disqualification/unfitness [futekisetsu] (an) unsuitable/inappropr...e/improper (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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You could also try Chinese, lots Chinese people have names with cool meanings (like Jackie Chan's real name, Chéng Lóng, which means "to become a dragon"). -- Paul Davidson Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> wrote in message (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(unicode-encoded, I finally have the hang of this) ???...??? (Konnichi-wa,Yuki-sa...Watashi-wa daigaku-de nihongo-o benkyoshimasu.) Bonjour, Yuki. J'étude le japonais à l'université. Ce n'est pas une langue facile d'apprendre (si on est anglais), (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) I don't use japanese-english dictionaries very much, so I don't know. (...) Since 'chokugeki' simply means "direct hit" without any references to directionalities, the warrior with that name could be the one who either gives or receives the (...) (25 years ago, 9-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) kawada blocks (clone company) did godzilla, mecha-godzilla and king ghidora in both large and small size models: (URL) got the large models of the zil and ghidorah (they stand about ten to eleven inches tall) and have been VERY tempted to (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.off-topic.clone-brands)
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Todd, (URL) you a picture of Date... (from his town of Sendai, north of Tokyo). Gilles (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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You can also go for "traditional" (real) Japanese warrior names or history related... Miyamoto Musashi (samurai) (Also the name of a ship during WWII) Odanobunaga (shogun) Date Masamune (He actually did not have to go to war, since he was strong (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) I really like Hiryuu. I first encountered it in RPGe's Fan Translation of Final Fantasy V. ;) They did an excellent job of translating it, too. (...) That is one of the few words not in my dictionary. What does it mean? (...) So, are you (...) (25 years ago, 8-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) greetings !! Here is a great sample: (URL) model is the greatest Gojira out of LEGO bricks ,I have ever known. As you can see,this is equipped with many air cylinders and looks like a real monster !! This model is created by Mr Nyu,nobody (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Greetings: If your PC has Japanese encoding, please come to my page's guest book. (URL) about LEGO topics in Japan,mostly LEGO trains. You can write in English too. regards Masayuki Ogura my LEGO site (URL) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) At this time, there is no information from Kabaya at all. But I will let you know about it soon. regards Masayuki Ogura my LEGO site (URL) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) OK, great! (...) Oh, hmm. Well, the meaning I wanted for Zenkai was "complete destruction." Is that more of an obscure meaning for the word? BTW, do you happen to know of any really excellent super-great Japanese-English dictionaries on the (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Sorry, I can not read what you wrote in Japanese. Could you re-write that in Romaji, in English or in French (I figured your name might be French)? Sumimasen-kedo, roomaji-de henji-wo kudasai. (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) There's basically no difference between Zenkai and ZENKAI to us. We may not recognize some of the words you listed above as Japanese (e.g. Hankai, Sokkazan & daikatsu) without seeing them written in Chinese characters and hearing them in a (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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$B$5$6$-!<$5$s(J $B;d$OF|K\?M$G$o$"$...49%$-!*(J $BKM$O%U%i%s%9$NJR!...0$G$9!#(J $B%8%k(J in article FpIx8D.2GA@lugnet.com, Yuki Sasaki at sasaki@arches.uga.edu wrote on 2/7/00 4:38 AM: (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) OK, cool, great, thanks! And given the meaning of Tomogui, I can't imagine that for a human warrior's name either...heh heh. But the name actually fits this particulary character I have, assuming that it's not too strange to give a name that's (...) (25 years ago, 7-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Among these, Hiryuu (Flying Dragon) and Arashi (Storm) can sound like names for warriors or wrestlers. They sound pretty good. Most of the others are simply words which would be pretty unlikely as names (e.g. Nukiuchi, Tomogui & Gaidoku), but (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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I've got a few LEGO characters in need of interesting names, so I decided to try browsing through a Japanese-English dictionary called JEDI[1] looking for ideas. It was a lot of fun, but unfortunately, since I don't speak Japanese, I'm not certain (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Watashi-wa nihonjin desu-yo! (Hey, I'm Japanese!) Nihonjin-kara-no message-ga amari naidesu-ne. (There aren't many messages from Japanese people here.) Hoka-ni nihongo dekiru-kata-wa imasuka? (Is there anybody else who speaks Japanese?) (...) (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) And let hiim steal my fun? I build Tokyo, then *I* can be Gojira. Once again, Lego makes a little boy's dreams come true... eric (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Anyone ever built Gojira out of LEGO bricks? --Todd (25 years ago, 6-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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$BF|K\8l$rOC$7$^$7$g$&!#(B -- Paul Davidson $B%]!<%k!!%G%#%S%C%I%=%s(B Paul Davidson <tinman@direct.ca> wrote in message news:FpCG4o.6CF@lugnet.com... (...) (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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???...??? (I'm still learning it.) -- Paul Davidson (25 years ago, 3-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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$B$($($H!#!#!#(B -- Paul Davidson $B%]!<%k%G%#%S%C%I%=%s(B Gilles S.C. Lamant <gscl@cadence.com> wrote in message news:B4B4FC79.B7AE%g...nce.com... (...) on (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Hi Can anybody confirm that there will be new Technic's from Kabaya in June or this year? If so please let me know -- Michael Please reply on medwards@ukonline.co.uk Home of the UK Technic Club Magazine Web site: www.technic-uk.co.uk (URL) to be (...) (25 years ago, 2-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Okay, I am a Rock Raiders fan, despite the fact it's probably not good for me. Would some fellow fan in Japan be interested in working out a trade for the sets once they come out? Hopefully there's a set or two out in the US that you'd be interested (...) (25 years ago, 1-Feb-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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$BKM$OLdBj$J$$$G$9!#!#!#(J(no problem for me !) Gilles in article Fou2vA.B6B@lugnet.com, Paul Davidson at tinman@direct.ca wrote on 1/24/00 6:39 PM: (...) (25 years ago, 26-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Hmm, I'm not so sure. (...) Hmm, well, but you were using Microshaft Look-Out to post the messages. The funny thing is, all of the non-Latin characters were converted (somewhere) to ?'s. Most likely, methinks, this happened not at the (...) (25 years ago, 25-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.admin.general)
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Lugnet seems to have serious problems with non-latin encoding -- I'm not even using 8-bit encoding methods. Maybe Todd can look into it? -- Paul Davidson Paul Davidson <tinman@direct.ca> wrote in message news:Fou2sK.AsE@lugnet.com... (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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???...??? (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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3rd try: ???...??? ??? ??????? (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Second test (JIS): ???...??? -- Paul Davidson Paul Davidson <tinman@direct.ca> wrote in message news:Fou27y.8rw@lugnet.com... (...) (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Please excuse me, I'm attempting to figure out what Japanese encoding methods Lugnet will allow. ???...??? (Shift-JIS) -- Paul Davidson (25 years ago, 24-Jan-00, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Re: Fujita LEGO Star Wars Website
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Han Solo in a tuxedo for ROTJ is fall-down funny! James Wilson (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Although he didn't quote (and changed the title of the message as well), David did use 'reply' - so the LUGNET newsreader software was able to direct me to the message he was replying to. The original post: (URL) Jeff, your post about your (...) (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) *Which* guy's stuff? If you're not going to use 'reply' and you're not going to quote the previous article, nobody's going to know what in heck you're talking about... J (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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This guy's stuff is by far the best I've ever seen. His attention to detail in recreating not only the figures and vehicles, but also the actual shots in the films, is superb! I nominate it for Cool Lego Site of the Year! Dave (25 years ago, 7-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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In lugnet.starwars, Bryan Wong writes: <snip> (...) </snip> They're called Snowtroopers. :^) I liked the use of the ghosts also. At first, I was like... WTF? Then I realized what he was using them for and I had a good chuckle. ~Mark (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Yes, this site is just awesome. The way Mr. Fujita used pre-SW Lego to build vehicles & scenes from SW is simply amazing! Some specific points: -His choice of minifigs to represent various characters is great. -He made his own R2-D2. -Yoda (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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In scale-modeling circles, we used to call someone who did a project like this a "sick puppy." This guy is VERY "sick". James (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) This must be the biggest StarWars Project ever. Even if we all put our models together, we can´t get close to it. I really enjoyed all the detailed scenes of the movies. Leia feeding R2D2 with Data in ANH is a classic. I suggest this site to (...) (25 years ago, 6-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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Wow! This Mr. Fujita is a genius. His creations were all made prior to the release of the Star Wars line by TLG. His designs for the Speeder Bikes, Millennium Falcon, and Desert Skiffs, among others, were right on. I especially like his Jabba, (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) Wow! Clever use of a yellow spaceman for C3P0. Also - done completely without Star Wars sets as far as I can see... I like the blowing up death star... Who says pirate ship parts can only be used to build ships... I like the "The Making Of..." (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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(...) I agree! This site is immense! I just wish I could read Japanese :) but it isn't really necessary. The pictures speak for themselves. I like the use of different scale models--just like making a real movie! In case anyone doesn't notice, the (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Fujita LEGO Star Wars Website
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This link sent in by Jin Sato <jinsato@magi.com>... (URL) Mr. Fujita spent "155 weeks of work from the summer of 1992." Incredibly mindblowingly excellent. Check it out. --Todd [crossposted to .starwars, .loc.jp, .build, and .announce; followups to (...) (25 years ago, 31-Dec-99, to lugnet.starwars, lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.build, lugnet.announce)
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| | Re: Lego User Group in Tokyo ?
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Hello, There is "LEGO-MUG (LEGO MINDSTORMS Users Group)". We have meeting in the second Saturday of the month at Kichijoji. And we will have events LEGO MINDSTORMS Festival in 11/23 at GINZA Sony building. It is a second event. We held the festival (...) (25 years ago, 30-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Lego User Group in Tokyo ?
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Hello, I am looking for an AFOL (Adult Fan Of Lego ?) group in the Tokyo area... Is there anything like it ? $BEl5~$K$O%l%4$N(Busers's group$B$,M-$j$^$9$+!)(B $B;d$O%U%i%s%9?M!"#...s$G$k!#(B Gilles (25 years ago, 30-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Wanted Technic Kabaya
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Hello All I would like to get the following Technic Kabaya sets 3000 3001 3003 3005 All help is good, will use Larry's factoring service or we can work out a trade Check out my big sell of Space, castle and more sets on my website -- Please reply on (...) (25 years ago, 29-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Last try...
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The next issue comes out in a couple days, so this is my last chance at getting this... I'm looking for Play-Online, issue #11, came out 9/24. I think it is the November issue. I have tried various Japanese book stores in the US, but none have it. I (...) (25 years ago, 21-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Not really Lego related, sorry...
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I know this isn't Lego related, but I'm trying to find out some information about a video game mentioned in the 9/24 issue of Play Online magazine. The issue apparently has an article or interview with Kow Yokoyama, about Maschienen Krieger. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Current promo/Japan-only sets?
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Well, I found out that I'm being sent to Japan for a couple of weeks. Can anyone fill me in on the current LEGO status there, specifically: what sorts of stuff do they have available there that isn't available in the US? Also, what are the prices (...) (25 years ago, 2-Oct-99, to lugnet.loc.jp, lugnet.promo)
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| | Legoland Günzburg
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Günzburg made it. Todd Lehman <lehman@javanet.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: 37af3b0e.4499508@lugnet.com... (...) (URL) (...) for (...) (25 years ago, 9-Sep-99, to lugnet.legoland, lugnet.loc.de, lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Re: Locations of #4 and #5 known?
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(...) No. But I'm not sure that I would like the notion that the Fitness Programme was one result of cutting back on goods and services to fit the timely completion of these plans, should my notion even be true. [f-ups set to lugnet.general] -Tom (...) (25 years ago, 18-Aug-99, to lugnet.legoland, lugnet.loc.de, lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Locations of #4 and #5 known?
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A TLG press release from earlier this year, (URL) New LEGOLAND Parks In December 1997, it was decided to concentrate the selection process for the fourth park on southern Germany (Günzburg) and Japan (Tokyo), with the opening planned for 2003-2004. (...) (25 years ago, 9-Aug-99, to lugnet.legoland, lugnet.loc.de, lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Re: Kabaya
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(...) Are the sets in the candy containers (box, bag, etc.) or do you have to send in proof-of-purchase labels? Jeff (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Kabaya
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About Kabaya-sets, I have some friends in Japan who can get any 1999 Kabaya sets you want to buy. Tell me what you want to buy and how much you like to pay for and I'll contact you directly. My email address: taka-tok@chaos.digti...agic.co.jp (...) (25 years ago, 17-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Re: Seeking Kabaya sets
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They are listed and pictured at Huw's promotional set archive. ---...--- (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Re: Seeking Kabaya sets
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(...) Did these just come out then? [Good] news to me! --Todd (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Seeking Kabaya sets
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I'd really like to get the following Kabaya sets: 3066 1999 Space Port Cosmos Glider 3067 1999 Space Port Test Shuttle 3068 1999 Space Port Radar Buggy 3069 1999 Space Port Cosmic Wing 3070 1999 Insectoids Mosquito 3071 1999 Insectoids Light Flyer (...) (25 years ago, 8-Jun-99, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | New Kabaya Set
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New Kabaya Set is now on sale in Japan. Set Number. 3020 3021 3022 3023 It's Adventurers. Pictures of these can be seen at Huw Promotional LEGO Set Database. (URL) (26 years ago, 8-Nov-98, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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| | Places to buy Lego??
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Are there any good places to buy lego near Norita Airport??? I have about a 5 hour lay over there on a flight next month. Would be neat to get in some lego shopping. Is there a immigration fee to leave the airport and return?? Thanks Barry (26 years ago, 27-Oct-98, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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TERMS OF USE FOR LUGNET.COM OVERVIEW AND DEFINITIONS lugnet.com ("LUGNET") is a privately owned Internet site designed and run primarily for the benefit of those who enjoy building with, discussing, collecting, buying & selling, trading, and (...) (26 years ago, 28-Sep-98, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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Welcome to lugnet.loc.jp, a LUGNET discussion group. CHARTER/PURPOSE: lugnet.loc.jp (group): Nippon (Japan). lugnet.loc.* (hierarchy): General-purpose discussion groups for specific localities around the world: events, social gatherings, swap-meets, (...) (26 years ago, 28-Sep-98, to lugnet.loc.jp)
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