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I'm pleased to announce two new developments on LEGO.com: the redesign of
the LEGO Mindstorms website, and the latest "edition" of Build.
LEGO Mindstorms
http://mindstorms.lego.com/
LEGO Mindstorms has a whole new look which should make it easier to find
information about products (like the new Robotics Invention System 2.0), the
latest inventions from our LEGO Mindstorms community (we have an improved
search engine), and new games like Robohunter 2, a 3D adventure where you
have to use a 'bot with a LEGO Cam to snap photos of of dangerous spies.
Of course, the new design still features all the same classic content --
challenges and contests of robotic design and programming, profiles of
advanced robot builders, building tips and instructions from experts like
Jin Sato. Later this month, stay tuned for information about the new
Ultimate Builders Set.
BUILD
http://www.lego.com/build/
Many people have already seen the recent update to the Build section of
LEGO.com, which included a feature article about artists who use LEGO,
including well-known AFOL sculptors and builders like Eric Harshbarger,
Henry Lim, and Eric Sophie.
This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
of LEGO studs.
This time around, the Build section also features a profile of LEGO Master
Builder Paul Chrzan, who gave a talk at this year's Brickfest, and building
instructions for the Grand Prize winners of the recent LEGO Train contest.
The Build Time Capsule goes back to 1986 -- and by popular demand, we
managed to acquire even more photographs of sets like the original Guarded
Inn, Light & Sound Space sets, the Arctic Action series from LEGO Technic,
and more. Last but not least, our resident minifig guru, Redini, answers
questions about multicolored bricks, how many 2x4s we make in one day, and
why minifigs are yellow.
As usual, we're always glad to hear what people think, in this thread or
through e-mail.
Tomas Clark
Producer, LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Tomas Clark writes:
> I'm pleased to announce two new developments on LEGO.com: the redesign of
> the LEGO Mindstorms website, and the latest "edition" of Build.
>
> LEGO Mindstorms
> http://mindstorms.lego.com/
> LEGO Mindstorms has a whole new look which should make it easier to find
> information about products (like the new Robotics Invention System 2.0), the
> latest inventions from our LEGO Mindstorms community (we have an improved
> search engine), and new games like Robohunter 2, a 3D adventure where you
> have to use a 'bot with a LEGO Cam to snap photos of of dangerous spies.
>
> Of course, the new design still features all the same classic content --
> challenges and contests of robotic design and programming, profiles of
> advanced robot builders, building tips and instructions from experts like
> Jin Sato. Later this month, stay tuned for information about the new
> Ultimate Builders Set.
>
> BUILD
> http://www.lego.com/build/
> Many people have already seen the recent update to the Build section of
> LEGO.com, which included a feature article about artists who use LEGO,
> including well-known AFOL sculptors and builders like Eric Harshbarger,
> Henry Lim, and Eric Sophie.
>
> This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
> factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
> attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
> of LEGO studs.
>
> This time around, the Build section also features a profile of LEGO Master
> Builder Paul Chrzan, who gave a talk at this year's Brickfest, and building
> instructions for the Grand Prize winners of the recent LEGO Train contest.
> The Build Time Capsule goes back to 1986 -- and by popular demand, we
> managed to acquire even more photographs of sets like the original Guarded
> Inn, Light & Sound Space sets, the Arctic Action series from LEGO Technic,
> and more. Last but not least, our resident minifig guru, Redini, answers
> questions about multicolored bricks, how many 2x4s we make in one day, and
> why minifigs are yellow.
>
> As usual, we're always glad to hear what people think, in this thread or
> through e-mail.
>
> Tomas Clark
> Producer, LEGO Direct
thanks for the heads up more reading to be done i see
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Tomas Clark writes:
> This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
> factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
> attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
> of LEGO studs.
And let me say, if you don't normally play the games on LEGO.com, this is
the one to make you start. I have cursed Tomas, et. al for creating this
HIGHLY addicting game more than once! Much fun for kids of ALL ages.
"Hi, my name is Jake, and I am a Junkbot addict."
Jake
---
Jake McKee
AFOL
LUGNET Member #211
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"Tomas Clark" <tomas.clark@america.lego.com> wrote in message
> Last but not least, our resident minifig guru, Redini, answers
> questions about multicolored bricks, how many 2x4s we make in one day, and
> why minifigs are yellow.
Hey...quick question. Are Redini and the Great Beyondo ever going to get
together for a 'head-to-head?'
;-)
-Tim
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Jake McKee writes:
> In lugnet.lego.announce, Tomas Clark writes:
> > This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> > Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
> > factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
> > attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
> > of LEGO studs.
>
> And let me say, if you don't normally play the games on LEGO.com, this is
> the one to make you start. I have cursed Tomas, et. al for creating this
> HIGHLY addicting game more than once! Much fun for kids of ALL ages.
>
> "Hi, my name is Jake, and I am a Junkbot addict."
I gotta' agree with Jake here, Tomas...HOW DARE YOU! You took up a WHOLE lot
of my afternoon today when I stumbled across Junkbot. And I only got to the
fourth building...Oh well, back to the trash-eatin'!
Matt "Junkbot Addict #2" Gerber
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Well, it's been 5 hours since I last posted ...I finally completed all of
the Junkbot levels, with a score of 1093.
Now, shouldn't I be ranked #23 on the Hall of Fame? 'Cause I'm not. Did I
miss something in the way of rules? I assumed this game was tracking
progress like Mata Nui, or Pepper's Skateboarding.
And, I don't have to play all of the levels AGAIN to better my score, right?
I can just go back and re-play any level I wish to try and get a better
score, right?
And since I was logged in while playing, I'll get to come back to my game,
right? 'Cause it ain't asking for my Club name or anysuchthing...so since
the page says I'm logged in, I am...PLEASE tell me I don't have to play the
whole thing over again, 'cause this late at night, and after playing so
long, I couldn't take that...you DON'T want to see me cry...it ain't a
pretty thing...really...
To tired to type anymore...and the damn Junkbot music is stuck in my head
too...gonna' have to make me up a Junkbot figure to stand over my
computer...gotta' go to bed
now........zzzz.........zzzz...........zzzzzz..........zzzz.......zzzz...................................
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Tomas
As the new Lego Mindstorms site has launched, when can we expect to see the
old content "converted" to the new content? I have been looking for the
scout SDK and it is to be found nowhere. I know the SDK is rather old, but
many of the members still want it.
I really like the new design, however, there seems a distinct lack in
content, and some items are in unusual places. Also the RIS 2.0 Flash parts
list features the "old" serial IR Tower and not the new "USB" version.
There is also no fibre optic link in the list either.
The new design is great and navigation is easier, however there are still
some "glitches" with the new design. At times pages can take 15 minutes to
load (No matter how many times you refresh them, or reopen IE).
Overall the new site is good, the layout of the pages and navigation are its
strong points. But the lack of content and slow loading times are the other
"side" of the site.
Yours,
Roboman8/LittleThing (Lego Mindstorms Forums)
Christopher Cooke (In real life)
"Tomas Clark" <tomas.clark@america.lego.com> wrote in message
news:GHvFnq.IG9@lugnet.com...
> I'm pleased to announce two new developments on LEGO.com: the redesign of
> the LEGO Mindstorms website, and the latest "edition" of Build.
>
> LEGO Mindstorms
> http://mindstorms.lego.com/
> LEGO Mindstorms has a whole new look which should make it easier to find
> information about products (like the new Robotics Invention System 2.0), • the
> latest inventions from our LEGO Mindstorms community (we have an improved
> search engine), and new games like Robohunter 2, a 3D adventure where you
> have to use a 'bot with a LEGO Cam to snap photos of of dangerous spies.
>
> Of course, the new design still features all the same classic content --
> challenges and contests of robotic design and programming, profiles of
> advanced robot builders, building tips and instructions from experts like
> Jin Sato. Later this month, stay tuned for information about the new
> Ultimate Builders Set.
>
> BUILD
> http://www.lego.com/build/
> Many people have already seen the recent update to the Build section of
> LEGO.com, which included a feature article about artists who use LEGO,
> including well-known AFOL sculptors and builders like Eric Harshbarger,
> Henry Lim, and Eric Sophie.
>
> This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, • dangerous
> factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's • our
> attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection • principles
> of LEGO studs.
>
> This time around, the Build section also features a profile of LEGO Master
> Builder Paul Chrzan, who gave a talk at this year's Brickfest, and • building
> instructions for the Grand Prize winners of the recent LEGO Train contest.
> The Build Time Capsule goes back to 1986 -- and by popular demand, we
> managed to acquire even more photographs of sets like the original Guarded
> Inn, Light & Sound Space sets, the Arctic Action series from LEGO Technic,
> and more. Last but not least, our resident minifig guru, Redini, answers
> questions about multicolored bricks, how many 2x4s we make in one day, and
> why minifigs are yellow.
>
> As usual, we're always glad to hear what people think, in this thread or
> through e-mail.
>
> Tomas Clark
> Producer, LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.announce, Tomas Clark writes:
> This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
> factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
> attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
> of LEGO studs.
Junkbot is a lot of fun! Nik and I spent several enjoyable hours. There are
a number of good puzzles in it.
It doesn't seem to be saving stats from one session to the next, though, is
that WAD?
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.lego.announce, Tomas Clark writes:
>
> > This morning, we also launched Junkbot, the Build section's first game. In
> > Junkbot, you have to help a garbage-loving robot get around a big, dangerous
> > factory by building stairs, bridges, and walls out of LEGO bricks. It's our
> > attempt to make an online game built around the basic connection principles
> > of LEGO studs.
>
> Junkbot is a lot of fun! Nik and I spent several enjoyable hours. There are
> a number of good puzzles in it.
>
> It doesn't seem to be saving stats from one session to the next, though, is
> that WAD?
Larry,
I got word from Tomas a little while ago. The build of the game that made it
to the site IS NOT saving. The beta builds did...hence the Hall of Fame
scores. They will be fixing it next week.
I played the game straight through late last night-early this morning (about
4 hours for all 50 levels...went to bed at 5:30AM)...imagine my shock when I
realized that the game wasn't saving my progress. Luckily, I saved a screen
shot of my final total, and I played it down even further after
finishing...I'm at 955 moves now (down from 1093). How did you guys do?
Matt
"Junkbot Addict #2"
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
<release not saving>
> They will be fixing it next week.]
Thanks for the word up on that.
> I played the game straight through late last night-early this morning (about
> 4 hours for all 50 levels...went to bed at 5:30AM)...
That's bad! (well... good, I suppose) It means the game IS addictive. It
sort of reminds me of Lode Runner a bit for those of you that remember very
early early PC games.
> imagine my shock when I
> realized that the game wasn't saving my progress. Luckily, I saved a screen
> shot of my final total, and I played it down even further after
> finishing...I'm at 955 moves now (down from 1093). How did you guys do?
We didn't finish the whole thing. I sort of expected that I would be able to
pick up where I (we) left off (we were playing under my ID). There are a few
puzzles we haven't figured out yet, or can't complete due to coordination
problems... A few of them require quick hand eye coordination rather than
just planning, and those I didn't like. The vast majority of them don't
require that you do things in any particular speed if you just plan your
work step by step. THOSE I like a lot better.
Based on where we are now, we probably would be turning in a score of around
1500 or so. I DID manage to get gold on every puzzle of the first building
and am close to knowing how to do so in the second. (the freezer one I
haven't grokked yet, I still am over 50 moves (and Nik is over 100 to solve
that one)...)
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
> > I played the game straight through late last night-early this morning (about
> > 4 hours for all 50 levels...went to bed at 5:30AM)...
>
> That's bad! (well... good, I suppose) It means the game IS addictive. It
> sort of reminds me of Lode Runner a bit for those of you that remember very
> early early PC games.
No prob...I was all caffenated up anyway...it was either Junkbot or reading...
Ah...Lode Runner...It also has a Lemmings aspect to it...
> > imagine my shock when I
> > realized that the game wasn't saving my progress. Luckily, I saved a screen
> > shot of my final total, and I played it down even further after
> > finishing...I'm at 955 moves now (down from 1093). How did you guys do?
>
> We didn't finish the whole thing. I sort of expected that I would be able to
> pick up where I (we) left off (we were playing under my ID). There are a few
> puzzles we haven't figured out yet, or can't complete due to coordination
> problems... A few of them require quick hand eye coordination rather than
> just planning, and those I didn't like.
Heh, heh..."Run the Gauntlet" frustrated me for a while...
The vast majority of them don't
> require that you do things in any particular speed if you just plan your
> work step by step. THOSE I like a lot better.
>
> Based on where we are now, we probably would be turning in a score of around
> 1500 or so. I DID manage to get gold on every puzzle of the first building
Me too...I figure it's good practice for when the save feature gets tweaked...
> and am close to knowing how to do so in the second.
I need three more gold levels in Bld. 2...
> (the freezer one I
> haven't grokked yet, I still am over 50 moves (and Nik is over 100 to solve
> that one)...)
I've got the freezer down to 33 moves, but that took awhile...I don't know
HOW to do it in 20...
Junkbot is, IMO, one of the best Shockwave games ever made...I certainly
hope Tomas and his team are working on expanding the game with more levels
and such...they could keep me playing this for a LONG time...
Matt
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
> Junkbot is, IMO, one of the best Shockwave games ever made...
Roger that. I am *almost* ready to take back all the mean things I've ever
said about Shockwave. (1) I wish you could play it standalone though.
> I certainly
> hope Tomas and his team are working on expanding the game with more levels
> and such...they could keep me playing this for a LONG time...
I'm even digging the music, it's pretty catchy.
1 - But please note that this game doesn't make up for the overuse (or
inappropriate use) of Shockwave elsewhere on the site. :-) (or elsewhere on
the web, for that matter... including my own company's site, to be frank)
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> In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> I wish you could play it standalone though.
I was hoping for the same thing...no-go when I tried to download to
Shockmachine...
If Tomas doesn't catch it here, I'll mention it the next time I e-mail with
him...I'm thinking a CD in the next Mania Magazine...
Matt
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> > I wish you could play it standalone though.
>
> I was hoping for the same thing...no-go when I tried to download to
> Shockmachine...
>
> If Tomas doesn't catch it here, I'll mention it the next time I e-mail with
> him...I'm thinking a CD in the next Mania Magazine...
That would be cool! I would be OK with it not saving high scores, etc when
it was standalone, and requiring all scoring record attempts to be while
connected (to prevent hacks).
We were connected to the LEGO website for many hours yesterday, doing
nothing else... so presumably there was SOME cost to LEGO (for maintaining
our session) even though we were presumably running from our local cache of
shockwave pages once we had viewed one particular puzzle the first time (or
maybe from the get go since there was a substantial delay to start the game
the first time, and almost none the second time)
One feedback to Tomas on the delay is that it might be nice to let the user
know that is what is going on more explicitly than with the gray brick
pileup. We were at the "try moving bricks before you play" for a long time
trying to figure out why we couldn't go on... until it dawned on me that it
was downloading and we just had to wait.
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Matthew Gerber writes:
> > > imagine my shock when I
> > > realized that the game wasn't saving my progress. Luckily, I saved a screen
> > > shot of my final total, and I played it down even further after
> > > finishing...I'm at 955 moves now (down from 1093). How did you guys do?
The bug that was keeping players' progress from being saved has been fixed.
Our apologies to all those who completed levels between Friday morning and
Monday afternoon!
> > We didn't finish the whole thing. I sort of expected that I would be able to
> > pick up where I (we) left off (we were playing under my ID). There are a few
> > puzzles we haven't figured out yet, or can't complete due to coordination
> > problems... A few of them require quick hand eye coordination rather than
> > just planning, and those I didn't like.
>
> Heh, heh..."Run the Gauntlet" frustrated me for a while...
I believe there are only three levels -- mostly the one Matt mentions, the
other two to a lesser degree -- where you need timing in order to complete
them, all in the last building. Thanks for the comment, of course. Of
course, if you want to lower your number of moves, you can do all sorts of
crazy things with good timing.
> > (the freezer one I
> > haven't grokked yet, I still am over 50 moves (and Nik is over 100 to solve
> > that one)...)
>
> I've got the freezer down to 33 moves, but that took awhile...I don't know
> HOW to do it in 20...
You can solve that level by moving bricks one at a time around Junkbot, of
course, but if you want to do it in 20 (I think the record is 16) the trick
is to "pick up" big clumps of bricks, hold them in your hand while Junkbot
moves through them, then put them back down. Thus you can deliberately
create huge clumps that you pick up all at once, etc. I'm mentioning this
mostly because it was driving me crazy forever too.
> Junkbot is, IMO, one of the best Shockwave games ever made...I certainly
> hope Tomas and his team are working on expanding the game with more levels
> and such...they could keep me playing this for a LONG time...
Thank you! I have no idea at this point if we will be doing more levels, or
a downloadable version, but your comments are very nice to have. Question
along these lines - if there was a level editor, would you (or your kids, if
applicable) be inclined to make your own levels for others to play?
I should also give credit to the team that made the game, Gamelab
(www.gmlb.com), who have made several other fun online games like LOOP,
BLiX, and Sissyfight 2000.
Tomas Clark
Producer, LEGO Direct
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Tomas Clark writes:
> The bug that was keeping players' progress from being saved has been fixed.
> Our apologies to all those who completed levels between Friday morning and
> Monday afternoon!
Thanks again, Tomas!
> > > We didn't finish the whole thing. I sort of expected that I would be able to
> > > pick up where I (we) left off (we were playing under my ID). There are a few
> > > puzzles we haven't figured out yet, or can't complete due to coordination
> > > problems... A few of them require quick hand eye coordination rather than
> > > just planning, and those I didn't like.
> >
> > Heh, heh..."Run the Gauntlet" frustrated me for a while...
>
> I believe there are only three levels -- mostly the one Matt mentions, the
> other two to a lesser degree -- where you need timing in order to complete
> them, all in the last building. Thanks for the comment, of course. Of
> course, if you want to lower your number of moves, you can do all sorts of
> crazy things with good timing.
*grrrr*...re-playing "Run The Gauntlet" right now for the save...*grrrr*
> > > (the freezer one I
> > > haven't grokked yet, I still am over 50 moves (and Nik is over 100 to solve
> > > that one)...)
> >
> > I've got the freezer down to 33 moves, but that took awhile...I don't know
> > HOW to do it in 20...
>
> You can solve that level by moving bricks one at a time around Junkbot, of
> course, but if you want to do it in 20 (I think the record is 16) the trick
> is to "pick up" big clumps of bricks, hold them in your hand while Junkbot
> moves through them, then put them back down. Thus you can deliberately
> create huge clumps that you pick up all at once, etc. I'm mentioning this
> mostly because it was driving me crazy forever too.
Yep...that's how I've been doing it...down to 32 moves now...
> > Junkbot is, IMO, one of the best Shockwave games ever made...I certainly
> > hope Tomas and his team are working on expanding the game with more levels
> > and such...they could keep me playing this for a LONG time...
>
> Thank you! I have no idea at this point if we will be doing more levels, or
> a downloadable version, but your comments are very nice to have. Question
> along these lines - if there was a level editor, would you (or your kids, if
> applicable) be inclined to make your own levels for others to play?
Yes, yes, YES! OH GAWD, YES! Ummm...please....
That would also make it REALLY viable as a stand-alone game, like Larry and
I mentioned...perhaps a CD-ROM with the current levels, and the editor
function...we could share our levels then, and perhaps you could pick some
of the players levels for the next release or something...the best reason
for a stand-alon version would be for those users on modems, tying up a
family phone line, or (especially like in Europe) who pay for Internet
by-the-minute, or have to use long-distance numbers...but I wouldn't
necessarily do it as a download (as ShockMachine can be iffy)...I see the
CD-ROM as the best idea...just my 2¢ though...
> I should also give credit to the team that made the game, Gamelab
> (www.gmlb.com), who have made several other fun online games like LOOP,
> BLiX, and Sissyfight 2000.
Yes, LOOP is way cool (but JunkBot rules! 8?) )
Matt
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Matthew Gerber writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Tomas Clark writes:
First off, let me say this game is totally awesome! With the save
working I finally had time to play through to the end. I haven't
figured the trick of a couple levels but still claimed Master Rank
#7. :-) Yow, have to shave almost 70 to reach #1! Is there a way
to see the top scores for each level? Which leads me to...
> > > I've got the freezer down to 33 moves, but that took awhile...I • don't know
> > > HOW to do it in 20...
> >
> > You can solve that level by moving bricks one at a time around • Junkbot, of
> > course, but if you want to do it in 20 (I think the record is
> 16)
It's down to at least 14. Not sure I could do it again though...
> > along these lines - if there was a level editor, would you (or • your kids, if
> > applicable) be inclined to make your own levels for others to play?
I doubt I'd take the time but I'd love to play the levels others
created.
Doug
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Doug Finney writes:
> Matthew Gerber writes:
> > In lugnet.lego.direct, Tomas Clark writes:
>
> First off, let me say this game is totally awesome! With the save
> working I finally had time to play through to the end. I haven't
> figured the trick of a couple levels but still claimed Master Rank
> #7. :-) Yow, have to shave almost 70 to reach #1!
What is your score? I suspect there's been some improvement in scores since
then... Nik and I together (on my ID larrypieniazek) are at 526 total score
for a rank of 31 as of this writing. The big area I can see to get a few
more points off is in the freezer. But with gold cards on all levels in
building 1 and all but one in building 2, it's getting hard to shave much
off... How on EARTH did someone get 354??? (that's the current high) I am
not sure that's mathematically possible!
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> How on EARTH did someone get 354??? (that's the current high) I am
> not sure that's mathematically possible!
I was sure that 354 must be a hack (no disparagement or accusation intended
- just astonishment =O ) but I have managed 363 myself. I can't imagine
where to shave off nine more but neither could I imagine before it happened
the 14 I shaved off in a long afternoon today.
I have to remove myself from the game a couple days at a time so I can
attack it with a fresh perspective and not just repeat my former tactics.
It's proven valuable that the overall game is so big because I often can't
remember how I get my best scores (like 14 on The Freezer) and am forced to
think things through more or less from scratch.
Play (Junkbot) well,
John
#388
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Radtke writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
>
> > How on EARTH did someone get 354??? (that's the current high) I am
> > not sure that's mathematically possible!
>
> I was sure that 354 must be a hack (no disparagement or accusation intended
> - just astonishment =O ) but I have managed 363 myself. I can't imagine
> where to shave off nine more but neither could I imagine before it happened
> the 14 I shaved off in a long afternoon today.
Well I shaved a FEW more off but clearly have a loooong way to go. This game
is great because (except for a few rooms like Running the Gauntlet and
Junkbot Is Brave which I have complained about before as being all
coordination and no skill) it rewards clever thinking, especially thinking
about how to build things that are reusable several times.
> I have to remove myself from the game a couple days at a time so I can
> attack it with a fresh perspective and not just repeat my former tactics.
> It's proven valuable that the overall game is so big because I often can't
> remember how I get my best scores (like 14 on The Freezer) and am forced to
> think things through more or less from scratch.
So I'm guessing that you're not even going to be ABLE to give any hints on
improving one's score, eh? :-) I JUST broke 500 and boy what a struggle that
was. Freezer has me stumped, I'm still at 40.
++Lar
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Well I shaved a FEW more off but clearly have a loooong way to go.
> So I'm guessing that you're not even going to be ABLE to give any hints on
> improving one's score, eh? :-) I JUST broke 500 and boy what a struggle that
> was. Freezer has me stumped, I'm still at 40.
DamnitLarry...you've knocked me down to #23...*grrrr*
I just keep shaving points, and shaving points...1 here, 2 there...and I
still keep loosing ground (it all started with John knocking me down a
couple of places, and it's been all downhill from there).
I do have The Freezer in 21, and I'm happy to rest on my laurels on that
particular level (what sadist decided to use all 2X4 bricks in there,
anyway?)...
BTW, I did make up a JunkBot to sit on my desk...made a little blue can for
him too...I'll have to snap off a pic for you all...had to use 2 1X2s for
his bottom though...ARE there 2X2 orange bricks? I don't own any, and
everyone local has cleared all of the Arctic sets off the shelves...
Matt
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In lugnet.lego.direct, John Neal writes:
>
>
> Matthew Gerber wrote:
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> > ARE there 2X2 orange bricks?
>
> Yup: http://guide.lugnet.com/set/3731
AH!
I don't know why, but I always aquainted the 3731 with the bucket I had:
http://guide.lugnet.com/set/3047 . I really should have known better. The
3047 was all 1X* parts.
Thanks, John!
Matt
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Larry Pieniazek writes:
> In lugnet.lego.direct, Doug Finney writes:
> > First off, let me say this game is totally awesome! With the save
> > working I finally had time to play through to the end. I haven't
> > figured the trick of a couple levels but still claimed Master Rank
> > #7. :-) Yow, have to shave almost 70 to reach #1!
>
> What is your score? I suspect there's been some improvement in
> scores since
> then... Nik and I together (on my ID larrypieniazek) are at 526
> total score
> for a rank of 31 as of this writing.
I was at about 420 when I wrote that but shaved that down to 384 which
was good for 5th at the time but has now slipped to 6th.
> The big area I can see to get a few
> more points off is in the freezer. But with gold cards on all levels in
> building 1 and all but one in building 2, it's getting hard to shave much
> off... How on EARTH did someone get 354??? (that's the current high) I am
> not sure that's mathematically possible!
I have no clue. My biggest gains naturally came on the two levels I hadn't
earned the gold award on so getting another 30 off will be quite a
challenge!
I see someone else is down to 356! My short-term goal is to reach 370.
Doug
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John Radtke writes:
> I was sure that 354 must be a hack (no disparagement or
> accusation intended
> - just astonishment =O ) but I have managed 363 myself. I can't imagine
> where to shave off nine more but neither could I imagine before
> it happened
> the 14 I shaved off in a long afternoon today.
Ah, and that would be you that's now down to 356. :) Congratulations!
I think I'll need more than one long afternoon to shave off my next 14.
Doug
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> So I'm guessing that you're not even going to be ABLE to give any hints on
> improving one's score, eh? :-) I JUST broke 500 and boy what a
> struggle that
> was. Freezer has me stumped, I'm still at 40.
Biggest help to me on that screen was to think big. Instead of clearing a
path a brick or two at a time, grab a whole pile, let Junkbot walk "through"
them and put them back basically right were they were. For example, you
should be able to get the 1st barrel and get Junkbot back to his original
starting place in 3 moves. Actually, I just realized it can be done in 2.
No how in the world did I get the others in 11 moves last time...
Doug
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Can someone verify this for me. If you try it out, I suggest you pick an
easy level to try it on.
I was showing a friend how to get through some of the levels, without
showing him the best way through, (got to let him think a little bit) and
when I completed the level with a worse score than I already had, my total
went up and my placing went down. I am not sure if this is a permanent
thing. I can't repeat this at the moment, as I can't even get into the game
due to loging into the site (another problem due to an old short user id
etc. Hint never log out).
Martin (mnm2)
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In lugnet.lego.direct, Martin Scragg writes:
> Can someone verify this for me. If you try it out, I suggest you pick an
> easy level to try it on.
>
> I was showing a friend how to get through some of the levels, without
> showing him the best way through, (got to let him think a little bit) and
> when I completed the level with a worse score than I already had, my total
> went up and my placing went down. I am not sure if this is a permanent
> thing. I can't repeat this at the moment, as I can't even get into the game
> due to loging into the site (another problem due to an old short user id
> etc. Hint never log out).
>
> Martin (mnm2)
Yeah, that (level score raised) just happened to me too once on Tuesday I
think it was. I wasn't about to try to repeat it on purpose - it definately
isn't regular behavior though or it would happen to me a whole lot more than
just the once.
John
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