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Re: Question How do we know if Brad is for real?
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Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:23:20 GMT
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In lugnet.dear-lego, Larry Pieniazek writes:
> Doyle, I think David's point is, how do we know anything with 100%
> certainty?
>
> Without going too deeply into epistimology (we HAVE done just that on
> off-topic.debate, you could review it if you're interested) I'd claim
> that we know things in general because we believe the evidence of our
> senses. We build up webs of trust based on our own perceptions and
> experiences. I believe the sun will rise in the east tomorrow because
> that's what it does. I beleive California exists because I've seen video
> of it, I've been there, I know people that live there...
>
> That stuff can be faked but if you don't believe in California you
> believe EVERYTHING is being staged, is what I would say. "the Matrix"
> notwithstanding, I tend to believe in the existence of things I see and
> people I meet...
>
> Further, I believe Brad Justus exists, because Todd does. Todd has
> satisfied himself of Brad's bonafides. When the fake Brad turned up on
> RTL he was pretty quickly put to light as a poseur. Without going into
> too much detail I have reason to believe that Todd is pretty certain
> that Brad is an actual person and that Brad works for Lego.
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> So for me, it comes down to, do I believe Todd? I do. I have more
> history with him than most of us, I actually have met in the flesh a
> person who claims to be Todd (and who gave me parts I paid for in an
> auction that Todd supposedly ran, so the corroboration is extremely
> solid). Further, everything that Todd has ever said to me of substance
> that I could verify has turned out to be true, so when Todd says
> something I tend to believe it. But... you need to decide for yourself,
> I can't do that for you.
>
> But this whole question of whether Brad exists misses the point.
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> The REAL question is, can Brad pull off what he's trying to do?
>
> LEGO as a company moves very slowly and what is being proposed might be
> considered to be a radical depature from previous paths. (might be! Ha!
> WILL be considered extremely radical...)
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> CAN Brad build the organization, build the internal consensus and solve
> the logistics problems, put together the business plans and make the
> whole thing turn a sufficent profit that it was a good investment
> (remember, it's not enough to make money, you have to make as much or
> more money than the alternatives available)?
>
> THAT is the important question.
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> And the answer is, I just don't know. I'm nervous. Time is short and
> there is a lot to do.
>
> One more question which I think is still begging an answer: What
> specifically can WE do to help? Harken back a few days and you'll recall
> I suggested that Brad give us some specific questions to brainstorm on.
> That hasn't happened, and I am disappointed.
>
> Charging off on flights of fancy about parts or sets we want,
> speculating about whether Brad exists, going off on each other because
> we're not reading carefully enough, those are all distractions.
>
> We need to pull together and do as much as we can to figure out how to
> help, and once we know, DO it! Now more than ever I think that's vital.
> Right now, NOTHING we can do as hobbyists is more important if we want
> to see lasting change in TLC.
>
> --
> Larry Pieniazek larryp@novera.com http://my.voyager.net/lar
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>
> NOTE: Soon to be lpieniazek@tsisoft.com :-)
Thanks Lar,
I didn't know todd said he was A ok. Thats fine with me if Todd checked it out
and found him to be true. Just with the mountain of messages its hard to find
the one message of confirmation. I read a lot of the letters (which I am a
late to come in on) and could find certain ones due to the volume.
Thank for the answer and since I dealt with you before if you say Todd said
its OK, then I know it Ok.
I appreciate the responce from you, which is mature and helpful and not
sarcastic like some others, I think you will agree whether or not it was meant
to be rude, His reply wasn't a serious answer and had sarcastic undertones. I
find as well as I am sure you do in the world that we have enough rude
sarcasism, and don't need it in a friendly group which we all have something
in common. It getting to the point that I dont know when I want to comment
anymore, for it seems that a lack of civility and maturity has infiltrated the
group, I find more and more private messages between hobbiest seem the most
civil way.
Thanks agian, But Lar, do you think he was being sarcastic? Because I do.
Doyle
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| (...) Todd didn't come out and say so in so many words in a post here, but if Todd had doubts about his bonafides Todd would never have approved his posting privileges. Those are the dots I connected, and those dots were there for you or anyone else (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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| (...) He certainly was. Sarcasm, however, is a very legitimate discussion tool. He was using sarcasm because he felt it was the best way to make his point. I really doubt he was deliberately trying to upset you. Of course, if you're going to be (...) (25 years ago, 2-Jan-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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| Doyle, I think David's point is, how do we know anything with 100% certainty? Without going too deeply into epistimology (we HAVE done just that on off-topic.debate, you could review it if you're interested) I'd claim that we know things in general (...) (25 years ago, 1-Jan-00, to lugnet.dear-lego)
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