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Scott R Dennett <dennett@agate.net> wrote in message news:199906151254330...ate.net... (...) A*** Retentive, I assume. (...) But it has everything to do with inventorying the parts in a set, which is another plus of the LDraw file, and one of the (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) LDLite do with a .txt file if it found it in an .mpd file? (...) I like this idea beter. LDAO and LDLite would pick it up and display it so people can read it if it was an errors.dat instead of errors.txt. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) each (...) of the (...) yet. (...) which is a Good (...) A/R?? (...) reason to have an (...) set (things (...) arms, etc. -- all (...) extra (...) And have you made a list of all those extra pieces, Todd? You can't expect people to do that on (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) A/R?? (...) Good idea.. (...) Ok. (...) Wow! You have pointed out something very serious. Should there be things in the MPD splitters to catch something like that and not allow it to write to c:\ or c:\windows? -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) That sounds like a really wise idea...and positively A/R, which is a Good Thing too. :-) And not only that (but related), there probably is a good reason to have an extras.dat file to codify the extra elements that come with a set (things like (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:199906151603.JA...omm.com... (...) Why not just an errors.dat file with lots of 0 comment lines? What would LDLite do with a .txt file if it found it in an .mpd file? Maybe it doesn't care what (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Then we should put an errors.txt file in the MPD's to denote each discrepancy in the official models. Especially since a lot of the decorated or sticker elements have not been modeled in LDraw yet. -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim: (...) Yes, assuming the directories exist. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) No, but there are separate compilers for DOS, MS-Windows 95, and MS-Windows NT. (...) Depends on which compiler you used. (...) Nope. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Since we appear to be using MPD for the Model Repository, I think its usefulness could be extended. Because of the patterned parts rule - if there isn't a decorated element for a set use the undecorated version - we will need a list of all errors in (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Bram Lambrecht <braml@juno.com> wrote in message news:19990614.203348...uno.com... (...) The Particle Ionizer has that many levels, but I just named them d, e, f, g, h. Your way is fine with me, though, as it gives the most flexibility. -John Van (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Looks fine to me. I didn't really feel like looking up all the release years for the models I've done. -John Van Bram Lambrecht <braml@juno.com> wrote in message news:19990614.203348...uno.com... (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Jacob, Does GNAT-ADA have an option for DOS or Windows compile? When I compiled buildmpd.exe, I didn't look for an option, I assumed it was a DOS compile. BTW, did you (Jacob) receive the buildmpd.exe I e-mailed? Steve (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve: (...) If you compile them for MS-Win95/98/NT they work with long file names. If you compile them for DOS, I don't think they will (but I haven't checked). Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Actually, to support more levels of subfiles, I suggested that we use the following, or a similar, format: main.dat Main instructions, including all models that can be built at once. Basically, this is just a display of m1.dat through m9.dat (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) into one (...) with >all the main model stuff in it, then a file called maybe SxxxxAyy for >alternate model 1, SxxxxByy for alternate model 2 etc. All the subfiles could >still go in a single directory called Sxxxx-yy. That could lead to (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) I think this already works. (...) That'd be nice. It'd be one step in making LDraw into less of an "amateur"[1] CAD program. --Bram [1] As in the results and programming, not the users. I think Ldraw should remain as least as easy to use as it (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | Re: IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Help Still Needed
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(...) For what it's worth, which is nothing, I have a good deal of experience writing manuals and instructions because of some duties I have taken on at work, but the chance of me finding the time to do a GOOD timely job at this are exactly nil. (...) (25 years ago, 15-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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| | IMPORTANT - [ldraw.org] Help Still Needed
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There are still a lot of things that need to be done on ldraw.org, and there's only a handful of volunteers in a specialized area. We are in need of help working with reference material for the most part. As quoted from a previous post: 5. Reference (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad, lugnet.admin.general)
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(...) both. I (...) I would say both in one model wouldn't be too much to ask - at least in the case where such submodels don't overlap. In which they do overlap, I would go for rotating functional parts over official instructions. We can link from (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney <tim@zacktron.com> wrote in message news:199906142043.NA...omm.com... (...) No. Some people might use submodels to represent the building instruction submodels, some might use them for rotating parts, some might even do both. I suppose (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) referencing (...) So you are saying to have two sets of each model - the true-to-instructions official version, and the version that incorporates all the rotating parts. Am I correct? -Tim Courtney ldraw.org Project Coordinator (URL) (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Using "main-" and "alt" gives us at least three more characters for referencing submodels and sub-submodels. I think Bram's idea of main-a main instructions, model "a" main-aa main instructions, model "a", sub-submodel "b" main-ab main-b (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) think it's probably more work than it's worth. The beauty (...) from any direction, and used for creating scenes, e.g. (...) files for movable or rotating sections of a model than (...) The M:Tron Particle Ionizer someone mentioned is a (...) (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Yeah, that's the idea. If the ZIP or MPD files contain the right subdirectory stuff, then they'd just fall right into place. --Todd (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Agreed completely. For serious file-sharing, MPD is way better than inlining. Steve (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) It's not his .dat file that contains the space character -- it's an actual file on the disk. Bram was saying that he was using LEdit interactively and saved a file, giving the name explicitly but accidentally embedding a space character in the (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message <375bc53d.299725817@...et.com>... (...) In which case MPD would be better anyway. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmmm... Looks like LEdit handles this just fine as well... No problems here. Is there really any reason to maintain the c:\ldraw\models\etc. structure for use in future tools in the LDraw multiverse? Why not allow models to reside in (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) subdirs in (...) saving. (...) Win3.1 (...) So can't you just open the .dat file in notepad and delete that line?? Ryan (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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A couple thoughts on Repository format: Purpose for .dat repository: If all we are creating is an alternate way of creating instructions, I think it's probably more work than it's worth. The beauty of the LDraw .dat file is that it can be configured (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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(...) Hmm. LDAO is OK with long file names, except for a few functions (Copy File is one, I think) which explicitly require a valid 8.3 name. LDAO can be configured to translate long paths/names to short versions before shelling to other programs. (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Bram: (...) I'll try to fix that. Play well, Jacob ---...--- -- E-mail: sparre@cats.nbi.dk -- -- Web...: <URL:(URL) -- ---...--- (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev)
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(...) Very good thought. As we discover the possiblities with subdirectories in LDraw, this is a very good idea for us to use. You are implying that people who obtain each author's dat files would put them in the same directory structure, right? (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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I feel it is time to take what we have discussed and bring it all together to reach a final resolution on the filename format. Soon. In summary, we have discussed how to make an 8.3 only system of filenames, a long filename system, and a system (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Tim Courtney wrote in message <199906120018.RAA060...mm.com>... (...) (1,2, (...) No. I consider Model that you can build from the box following one of the instructions in the booklet (the box may have alternate models) while submodels are smaller (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Bram Lambrecht wrote in message <19990611.150459.824...no.com>... (...) Yes, that was my idea. It is necesary for us to use the correct terminology to avoid confusion. The set is the whole box. I consider model in a set that has an instruction (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Steve Bliss wrote in message <3761643a.3222363@lu...et.com>... (...) OK, I can see now that is not a wise idea to consideer duplicate sets as laternate models. Ampi ---...--- Imre Papp Geometria GIS Systems House email: ipapp@geometria.hu ---...--- (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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Scott R Dennett <dennett@agate.net> wrote in message news:199906131707010...ate.net... (...) Hmmm, I just think it is sorta fantastic....... Maybe even a little awesome....... Kevin B aka Battlehammer (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad)
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(...) I'm fairly certain that LDraw and LEdit weren't written with subdirs in mind... LEdit doesn't even check if a filename is valid before saving. (I once accidentally put a space in a filename in LEdit on my Win3.1 machine, and now I can't seem (...) (25 years ago, 14-Jun-99, to lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw)
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