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  Re: JDraw3D, another Viewer/Editor for ldraw files
 
Sorry, it's my fault. I'll try to explain thinks better and change the page. What I can tell you right now is that you don't have the required java vm plugin installed in your browser - probably MS IE. Microsoft ships MSIE with his own (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: JDraw3D, another Viewer/Editor for ldraw files
 
(...) Interesting idea but you may want to provide a little more assistance to people on getting it running, like giving links to the prereqs for major platforms if you know what they are. I pressed the compatability test and got a grey area and no (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LPub 2.2.0.0 Available
 
(...) I meant this example: (URL) Kevin (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)
 
  LPub 2.2.0.0 Available
 
In the previous version of LPub I released some prototype new features for creating "callout" images, which are images of small assembly contruction, all tiled together into a single image, like this: (URL) this (URL) above callout image generation (...) (21 years ago, 29-Apr-03, to lugnet.announce, lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.inst)  
 
  JDraw3D, another Viewer/Editor for ldraw files
 
Hello All, It's my first time posting here, but I just didn't know how to show to the public my program, a 3d viewer / editor for LDraw files. Please let me know what you think about it. It is written entirely in java, so it should be ready to run (...) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) (URL) (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) could you post the link to it? I think it'd be a good thing to allow people to read it. Dan (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: the LCD guys strike again :-)
 
(...) Whoops, I mean "Computing." That's what I get for not double checking. -Tim XFUT -> cad.dev (21 years ago, 28-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) I've marked up all I can see that needs to be tweaked up to this point. If anyone wants to have a look at what I have, please email me or post here, and I'll mail it to you. I don't want to post yet another revision, just to revise it again, (...) (21 years ago, 27-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) I agree. That's what I meant when I said the LSC is the first step twards an official LDraw.org body. The 4+1 are not really LDraw.org - they act in what they believe is it's best interest, but so do quite a few other people, who are just as (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) currently, since there is no formal organization (and we're starting to push for one, woo!), there really isn't an authority issue. There's only the ability. If Steve decides he's turning off the parts tracker, he can. If you (Tim) decide to (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Elections and Membership in ldraw.org
 
With 0.7 of the LSC proposal getting generally good reviews so far, it's likely that we're close to a final draft on the LSC proposal and it's time to start thinking about the things needed to make it happen. Since 0.7 replaces a temporary appointed (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dev.org.ldraw) ! 
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) The thing is, right now they are LDraw.org. Do you prefer that we just refer to LDraw.org, without the names? I think it is important that LSC is under the LDraw.org umbrella. I invite you to start a new topic on moving from ad-hoc LDraw.org (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LD4DModeler status
 
LD4DModeler is awesome! Keep up the good work. -Mike (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) Agreed. (...) Yep. (...) Right. So are you trying to say something like; the individuals involved with the specific tasks are responsible/have the authority to make decisions regarding each technical task? That makes sense to me for the most (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
(...) absolutely! (...) I like this proposal a lot better, with one exception: (...) organization for LDraw, and then step down. Administrating the website, Parts Tracker and server are all separate technical functions, and do not fall under the (...) (21 years ago, 25-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  LSC Draft Proposal Version 0.7
 
Everyone - This has been a very good discussion on the LSC proposal so far. I have drafted a new version, 0.7, which attempts to clear up the confusion and ambiguity, and also adds in many peoples' suggestions. I've changed the references regarding (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Every time I've seen Qualification 2, I've thought it needed clarification. How about: "Served as a reviewer on the Parts Tracker and posted at least 5 reviews for each of at least 2 official updates." After all, just because someone only (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Part updates are currently every two months. 0303 (due to come out in about a week, I think?) will probably be a small update, since the Tracker hasn't been up for weeks. . . -- TWS Garrison (URL) capital letters in address for direct reply. (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) I agree that we have to avoid that risk you refer to, and I would suggest that be part of the LSC charter. As for the steering committee, I'm not sure the post from 2 years ago is really valid anymore, and would suggest the community start (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
On Thu, Apr 24, 2003 at 04:27:28AM +0000, Wayne Gramlich wrote: [snip very good points] (...) Wayne, this is a great idea, and I would support this kind of process. Dan (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) it was semi-automatic - I used vimdiff to find all the differences, and marked them up manually. Didn't take long. But since it is manual, it's theoretically possible that I missed some - I promise, nothing was left out intentionally. (...) (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) I guess I'm worried about the LSC defining a standard that has no meaning. Without the community accepting the standard, what's the point in having it defined? I do agree with later posts, especially wayne's - the vote is likely to become a (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) This is more what I was considering... a way for those who may or may not have been authoring Lego Parts to get a chance to be on the standards body. After all, its possible, but unlikely that another use for the program could overshadow the (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Yep, I agree 100%. Tomorrow I'm going to work on an 0.7 draft version of the proposal, taking in the useful comments made by all. It should tighten it up considerably from 0.6, eliminate the confusion, and add stuff like Wayne's recommendation (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) I'm completely opposed to removing the voting power for the LSC. If the LSC can't set any standards why have it the first place. As the old saying goes, too many cooks spoil the broth. -Orion (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) How about this: Requirements for LSC Membership To ensure only competent, dedicated, and active contributors become members of the LSC, they shall have met one or more of the following requirements: - Authored an LDraw part subsequently (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) All: While a ratification vote is fairly common for technical committee proposals, I don't think I've ever heard of a ratification vote that did not sustain a technical committee's recommendation. If a technical committee is doing the wrong (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) All: I'm little behind the curve on this overall discussion, but I think I can speak to this issue. I think the proposed rules for LSC inclusion are quite reasonable. My reading of the rules is that I do not qualify for LSC membership (and I (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
"Dan Boger" <dan@peeron.com> wrote in message news:20030423205226....ron.com... (...) retaining (...) I have been watching this thread from the sidelines. While I use a number of the tools (notably ML-CAD, L3P, L3PAO, LDAO, and LPub) I would not (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) That sounds good to me. If someone can further think this through, I can include it in a re-draft of the proposal sometime in the future. -Tim (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Not to overcomplexify but perhaps two nomination paths? One path if you are qualified under the criteria given already, and another, petition based, in which some number of qualified people vouched for you as a viable candidate? (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) what the differences are, which is a good thing. How did you generate it? (I know your aversion to MS and suspect you didn't use MS Word for the generation :) ) Hopefully some automatic way so we can be sure all the differences are (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) I believe this proposal should make reference to the current steering committee, the only legitimate steering committee thus far. If it does not, there is a risk that the LSC could be misconstrued as _the_ governing body for all LDraw.org (...) (21 years ago, 24-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev) !! 
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Thanks for the marked up version. It makes it clear that you want the community to have the deciding vote, not the LSC. May I ask why? Kevin (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Right. (...) I'm not sure here. If we make those requirements guidelines, it further weakens the LSC. BUT, as duly noted, we have two cases who could qualify, Dwayne and Wayne. I wouldn't want them excluded from the possibility of being LSC (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) Putting on my legal hat: Notice that the draft proposal refers to "the LDraw Community", not the LEGO community. LDraw stands for LEGO Draw, which is the only time the word LEGO is used in the entire draft, so I'm not sure where you think that (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
If I might ask a question... I see that this whole project is geared specificly toward Lego uses of the program. From my understanding, it will not be restricted to just Lego uses. Clone brands, as well as other things (there is a couple of block (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) here's a (manually) marked up version: (URL) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: LDraw.org Standards Committee (LSC) Draft Proposal
 
(...) I think it had many good ideas in it, indeed! (...) While I agree in general, I think the leadership of LDraw.org should not be part of this proposal. The LSC can easily start it's work, while the community works out the whole official org (...) (21 years ago, 23-Apr-03, to lugnet.cad.dev)  


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