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  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
Ahui Herrera wrote... (...) I think we have been talking past each other, especially about what a submodel is, and when it is a submodel. You seem to think of a submodel as being a certain file, and always call it submodel no matter it is rendered (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
(...) It would be a solution. Basically in the end I would have 2 set of files: Set 1: for distribution model.mpd (which is made of) complete.ldr submodel1.ldr submodel2.ldr Note that ALL of these files would have their steps IN THEM! So that a user (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
LeoCad can do that sort of thing - but not very straightforward, here is the procedure: - Rename your sub-model as .dat (LeoCad doesn't properly support .dat extension) - Open it with Leocad - Select all parts (edit/select all) and Copy (Ctrl-C) - (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
(...) Would that solve all your problems? You always want to ignore steps in submodels when rendering main model? Do you render submodels separately for BI ? /Lars (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
(...) I start off by making one ldraw model first. Usually it has no steps and parts are in NO particular order. Once I got the model done, I go back and begin to figure out what sections should be sub-models if any. At this point I begin to build (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
(...) But don't you make separate building instructions for the submodels ? The way stepclock works today isn't well suited for models containing submodels with steps. If a model includes a submodel in step 3 it will include step 1-3 of the submodel (...) (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
(...) This works BUT ONLY if you are NOT doing building instructions of the submodels as well? I'm making builing instructions for the submodels as well so this option is NOT an option for me. =( AHui (22 years ago, 19-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: disabling BFC (was "Head w/ Headset Over Brown Hair")
 
Steve Bliss wrote... (...) In the coming version of L3Lab I have added a check to see if the model contains any linetype 2, 3, 4 or 5. If so, the "model" is assumed to be a part/primitive, and BFC is disabled. (BFC is of course enabled for a (...) (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev, lugnet.cad.dat.parts)
 
  Re: L3P and/or L3PAO
 
Ahui Herrera wrote... (...) Or simply ALWAYS ONLY put stepclock in the main model ? Since L3P doesn't walk the model/part tree (POV does) it doesn't make much sense putting stepclocks in submodels. /Lars (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) I think I would, but just having the choice between only the first 20 entries (default) and all the entries (optional) would be helpful. Jacob (22 years ago, 18-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  L3P and/or L3PAO
 
Not sure which author would be willing to do this if any? Currenlty L3P/L3PAO when using the -sc (stepclock) function will allow a user to render the model by the number of steps (each step = 1 image) in your .ldr file. This is a WONDERFUL tool but (...) (22 years ago, 17-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: ** QUAD2DAT ** version 0.9.4 released **
 
(...) Hi all, I've noticed that the inserted pictures is mirrored, left is right and vice versa. Does this makes all the with this program done parts unusable? CU Bernd PS: the number of parts are exploding with this program (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Depends - do you want to be able to page to the *next* 20 or so entries? Without paging, it'd be very easy to implement. Steve (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Looks good. Would it be difficult to limit the list to the first 20 or so entries? Jacob (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) That looks great, Steve, thanks. I really think this will help to maintain author perspective, and help some reviewers to target the oldest files. Chris (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Looks good. I dont think the subfile issue is all that important, as I only ever review subfiles when required by a superfile I'm reviewing - the superfile will tell me if the subfiles need certifying anyway, and I can get to them easily from (...) (22 years ago, 14-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
Hello Steve, Looks very good... The easiest solution would be to add an 'Date of first submission' field in the part table. Because this field didn't exists so far the start value should be the date of the last action on a part. Then a parts thats (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
Here's a first attempt: (URL). This page excludes Certified! and Held files, and sorts by most-recent-action-date, oldest to newest. It does not take superfile-subfile relations into account. Take a look, and let me know what you think. One down (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Yes. (...) I don't think they should be included (as a reviewer). (...) I think so. (...) :-) Jacob (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30375cs0.dat, "MiniBot SW Battle Droid (complete)"
 
(...) OK, I'll do it when I can. Steve (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Good idea. I don't think this would work as 'just another sort' of the parts list page (URL). I'd rather have a "most in need of attention" page, with the following parameters: 1. Exclude all certified files. 2. Sort the files by date of last (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: bushman hat...
 
(...) I just saw this part on Paul Easter's todo page. (URL) There's no data file available though (Paul, feel free to post it. Thx). Andy (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
Actually there is a reference here: (URL) Under the "What are Subparts" heading -Orion (make it billthefish and remove the obvious lettering to reply personally) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Issue with some of the holds on the Parts Tracker
 
(...) Comments are always welcome over holding for insignificant errors. I try to check all the parts I've submitted at least ever couple days until certified, I really wish more part authors would check up on their parts regularly. OTOH, if you (...) (22 years ago, 13-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Issue with some of the holds on the Parts Tracker
 
(...) Hi reviewers, May be the post was also directed to me. I plainly assume some of my votes to be honest but ridiculous or arbitrary. In absence of a formal specification of what is a good part, voting is arbitrary in essence. In presence of such (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Actually, since the previous time that this was raised, I have refrained from self-certifying, and at that time cancelled all my existing self-certifications. But on several of these files, that is still the last action! I'd like to see an (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) Hi reviewers, I am also not disturbed by self-certification practice. First the practice is mainly from people like Chris Dee and Franklin W. Cain that I have high respect for, because of their past and present monumentuous contribution. Their (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30375cs0.dat, "MiniBot SW Battle Droid (complete)"
 
(...) [snip] (...) Aaaaaahhhhh! I yield the point. (Seeing the list really helped.) Please make the necessary filename changes. Thanks, Franklin (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: 30375cs0.dat, "MiniBot SW Battle Droid (complete)"
 
(...) No big deal. It's a trivial thing, but if I can get everyone to use it the same way, I won't have to spend as much time twiddling part titles. :) Taking things a little out of the order you wrote them... (...) Sorry, I guess I wasn't totally (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  "the new way" (was: Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker)
 
(...) Actually, we're on track this year to release approximately 800 files. That's as many files as we've ever released, back in 1998 and 1999. Here are the released file counts, starting from the first 'LCAD Update'. Year Files 1997 128 1998 806 (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
I thought about this issue while I was at work and I've decided to reverse my opinion on the matter. I feel that self-cert is OK as long as the user doing it is responsible and feels comfortable doing it. I probably won't start self-certifying my (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: Self-Certification in parts tracker
 
(...) I don't recall the discussion either, but that doesn't change my opinion (...) I think is new system is WAY better. Take a look at part 2598 and you'll see why I think this way. I'd rather have the process be slow and put out quality vice (...) (22 years ago, 12-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
(...) its really a dull silvery chrome part. like as the new spiderman green goblin set, there are dull chrome parts in it. try 503 pov might not do it as chrome (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
(...) More or less. Except that --eek!-- the page has disappeared! :o It's back now: (URL). I restored the page from an old file, it needs some ... work. But it's better than nothing, for now. Steve (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
(...) Yes. Color-383 is the "official" choice for "Silver". Furthermore, the chrome on my Boba Fett jetpacks look like silver to me. However, please do _not_ make the default color of any file anything other than "Main Color" (color-16); do not (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
(...) AAAaaaaaah! so that's the reason! (...) Yes, that's VERY helpful. I will fix that immediately, and repost. A question though: Should I really use color 383 (chrome) for the body of Jango's helmpack and the details on Boba's? Neither of them (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New Part: Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
And the "exponential" numbers need to be converted to just plain zero. Franklin (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: New Part: Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
Also, you'll need to remove the "WRITE" statements from the file before uploading it to the Tracker. HTH. ;-) Franklin (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: dithered colors w/ Jango Fett Helmet/Jetpack
 
Tim, You need to make extra subfiles, for the dithered colors. (LDraw requires this; otherwise, LDraw messes up rendering the dithered colors.) "Dithered colors" are those color codes from 256 to 511. (for ex.): Simply copy all the quads for (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)
 
  Re: bushman hat...
 
[fut --> ".dev" ] (...) I don't recall who did it, but I do recall that someone did encode a version of the bushman hat. I don't recall if he ever posted the file to LUGNet, though... (I just recall seeing the file at someone's website.) HTH, (...) (22 years ago, 11-Jun-02, to lugnet.cad.dat.parts, lugnet.cad.dev)


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